Knowing everything and allowing evil

[Abracadabra]

As for you saying Jesus did not claim to be God, I will comment on that. You made a claim and therefore I can refute it.

Of course you can refute it in that absurdly limited way. Everything in the Bible can be refuted using the Bible itself because it's a cannon of extreme contradictions.

Every verse in the biblical cannon be refuted using another verse.

Here's a perfect example.:

John.5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

So the father judgeth no man?

Then later Jesus crys out from the cross, "Luke.23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do"

Why would Jesus be asking the father to forgive people if the Father judgeeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son"

These fables are grossly contradicting at every turn of the page. So they can't be trusted to hold any truths. The Biblical cannon is a blatant untrustworthy doctrine that is riddled with endless self-contradictions.

You say:

Your next claim saying Jesus said he did not come for the righteous but the unrighteous. He is not saying they do not need salvation. In fact, he talks many times pointing out even the Pharisees who devoted their lives to following the law were not perfect. Surely even you know of that. He spat in their faces many times (figuratively). Everyone needs salvation, but he was saying he didn't come to spend all his time with the righteous but the unrighteous. Not the rich but the poor. He was helping those who needed it most.

First off, Jesus didn't say that the Pharisees were "righteous". On the contrary he called them hypocrites.

More you say that Jesus did not spend time with the rich but with the poor because the poor are more likely to need help. But that flies in the very face of other places in this cannon when it has Jesus saying the following:

Matt.19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

According to this verse Jesus is stating that rich people are far more likely to need salvation than poor people. He also called the Pharisees hypocrites which is not good. Therefore if Jesus wanted to actually help someone he should have been spending all his time with the Pharisees since clearly they would have needed help the most.

Just the opposite of what you have suggested.

If you want me to refute claims all you have to do is make them and actually back them up. Nuh uh doesn't prove anything.

It would be impossible for you to refute my claims by using the biblical cannon. The biblical cannon is nothing more than an endless book of lies and contradictions.

Besides, you totally avoid the most important point I've made. No doubt because you can see that it's an irrefutable point.

On the Cross Jesus said (according to these absurd myths), "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"?

Ignoring the fact that this is already a blatant contradiction because it had previously been proclaimed in this cannon the the Father judgeth no man and has committed all judgement unto the Son, this verse still flies in the face of any verses or interpretations that proclaim that it's necessary for people to either believe that Jesus was divine, or to ask him for forgiveness.

The people that Jesus forgave here did neither of these things. They did not recognize his divinity, nor did they ask him for forgiveness. Yet he forgave them anyway on the grounds that "They know not what they do".

Therefore if you are going to give this story any credibility at all you must honor the fact that Jesus easily forgave people who not only did not believe that he was divine, nor asked him for forgiveness, and they were also beating him to a pulp and nailing him to a pole but he still forgave them.

Well, if you can believe that (and if you believe in these biblical fables then you must believe this, you have no choice in the matter.

So to hold out that anyone needs to ask Jesus forgiveness for anything, or that it's important that anyone believe that Jesus was divine, is utter nonsense. Based on the very words attributed to this man.

He forgave people who did not believe he was divine, nor did they ask him for forgiveness. He forgave them based entirely on the principle that they know not what they do.

And if he forgave such violent people who were in the middle of crucifying him, then he most certainly would automatically forgive the average person who simply doesn't believe in him.

Christians insist on using Jesus as a hate tool. They use him in a hateful way by proclaiming that anyone who doesn't join and support Christianity will be rejected by Jesus and condemned (because it states that utterly contradicting nonsense other places in this cannon)

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If Jesus forgave the people who crucified him solely because they "knew not what they do", then clearly these words of John above are outright lies. Either John was lying, or Jesus was lying.

You can't have the cake and eat it too.

You can either accept that John is a liar, and that about 99.9% of the words in the bible are totally untrustworthy lies and contradictions, or you can just recognize that the whole damn thing is a superstitious fable.

That choice is up to you.


But trying to hold it up as being a 'consistent' picture whilst simultaneously demanding that Jesus hates non-believers and will condemn them to hell. Or even that he demands that people seek forgiveness before he will forgive them is utter nonsense.

This biblical cannon cannot support that kind of Christian hatred in the name of Jesus.

Christian hatred in the name of Jesus is of their own making. They necessarily need to spit in the face of Jesus in order to hold him out as the hateful monster they so desperately desire him to be.

This cannon clearly has Jesus saying, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

These people neither recognized Jesus' divinity, nor did they seek or ask for forgiveness for what they were doing.

So clearly this cannon of fables, has Jesus forgiving people freely with no strings attached.

Any Christian who claims that Jesus requires to be recognized, or that his forgiveness needs to be requires, our outright liars.

They are lying about what these fables even have to say about this man.

So as long as you continue to support Christianity, you are continuing to support lies about Jesus in a spirit of hatefulness toward non-believers.