(February 25, 2012 at 2:07 am)Rhythm Wrote: Excuse me? Jesus gave plenty of shitty advice, and advocated for positions that we (yourself included) have roundly and violently rejected.
I can't just look, I have to really look? What if I've really looked and I still see contradictions? Do I have to really, really look? And then? Really....really....really? I don't think you really have any room criticizing someone elses knowledge on the subject matter. You've had to be told what was and what was not in your own fairy tale. Some of us have looked, we didn't like what we saw. Some of us have learned, and still do not believe. Your posts would be about ten times less irritating if they weren't a steady parade of bullshit followed by implications of our collective ignorance in the face of your enlightenment.
You say the bible says this, and you back it up with a passage. An atheist says the bible says something different, and backs it up with a passage. Somehow, you come out of this exchange with the notion that the consistency of the bible is proved in this manner? The bible can be used (and has been used) to justify anything, absolutely anything. It's a big book, it wasn't written all at once, there's very little it doesn't say (though that silence itself is deafening). If you can't deal with that, if you can;t have a conversation in which this is possible, then wtf are you even doing attempting to talk about the bible Chip?
Sorry, I meant on secular manners. Jesus said many spiritual things atheists disagree with. And second, I again apologize. Not everyone can understand everything in the bible. Many things are clear but many things aren't. I didn't post this here but there's a 2 step process to finding information you don't understand.
1. You see something that looks off, look into it. Read further.
2. If you still can't find the answer, ask someone who knows better. 2 people may see the same thing but interpret it differently which is why it's good to get second opinions. Maybe 3rd or 4th opinions. The more you discuss, the more you learn.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem