Custody Battle Update Thingy

[thesummerqueen]

Really, I sometimes have a hard time believing that you people are "leftists", as leftists in my country are strongly opposed to women selling their body as a commodity.

One thing in one country does not mean the same thing in another.

Only social conservatives are opposed to women "selling their bodies." As George Carlin observed, selling is legal, fucking is legal - so why isn't selling fucking legal?

I am opposed to a PIMP selling a woman's body. If she sells it, it's hers. If you think there's something wrong with it, we'll discuss it in another thread. The fact is that men are willing to buy it. What now?

And well, being a drug dealer is a bad thing. Aside from being illegal, there really is no morality in dealing drugs. A drug dealer can sell drugs to young people, old people, people with families and children and do not even care.

People who dispense medical marijuana are classed as drug dealers, and they are selling relief to young, old, families, children, and they DO care. What about that alcohol you consume? It's a drug.

I do not stereotype anyone, for I've known people who deal in various drugs.
Their worth in comparison to a man who earns less, but enough to feed his family is nothing. Their trade is not honest, and flaunts the law, by feeding false joy to the minds of troubled people.
Is that a great thing? There are cases where I find playing the devil's advocate to be unacceptable.

Not all drug dealers fit your stereotype - I know, because I've known some.

And how do I prove that it's otherwise? I really can't, not over the internet. But I really would like to know the reasons why you think so. In that way, I might understand the lot of you better, maybe.

Yes you could - by asking more questions than immediately judging. This whole thread is a prime example.

And what exactly would you have me extract from this thread?
If she had a proper family, she would not have left her home at 16. She would not have to strip for others for some cash.

Some people leave because they want to get out on their own regardless. I know people like that. We still haven't established that there is inherent shame in stripping for money. It earns good money, keeps her healthy and fed. In fact, as long as they're not doing drugs (which anyone, stripper or not, could do) strippers are also in pretty damn good shape from what I've seen. At least, the talented ones.

I do not know what kind of a job she has now, or what her degree of education is, but I know that these two are proof enough for me to say that she wasn't raised very well, not by my standards.

You never asked. She's highly intelligent. You judged before you got to know her.

Lots of people sell weed to earn money the easy way. They'd sell something more profitable if they could, perhaps, but weed can be grown home, and doesn't need large poppy fields, nor coca plantations.

Lots of people do lots of shit to earn money the easy way.

Well, she has to take care of them after she's done it, that's for sure.
But if she hadn't done them to begin with, that would have been better, yes?

So...it would have been better if her daughter hadn't been born? Is that what you're implying?

It's a *source* of information, that's for sure.

Not a good one.

Well, maybe, but it's how it's done around these parts.

Then be aware that's not how we operate here.

I'm stating my opinion as to the current knowledge I have on the topic.
As the knowledge grows, I change my assumptions, but until now, not much has changed.

I highly doubt that, but go ahead, surprise me.

Then why did he abuse you?

Because he had anger issues and self-esteem issues and felt like taking them out on us? Why does another human abuse a fellow human being? What does it have to do with the point?

Nope. My family, and the families of relatives and friends are all quite traditional, and normal. None of them experience a crisis.

Language barrier. I meant that Alei doesn't have a broken home. She might have come from one, but her kids are in a fine place, and her daughter will be too when she's back home with momma. She doesn't need a traditional "normal" family to create a good, loving home with strong intelligent children. Only people who think a family has to be a certain way say there is anything wrong with a non-traditional family.