Knowing everything and allowing evil

[genkaus]

@genkaus
Obviously you aren't going to see my point because you do not understand the concept of selflessness. Take a few psychology classes and just maybe you can learn about it. And btw, when I said God saves us from death I should have clarified I meant eternal death which is the second death. Of course you don't believe in that but one step at a time. Take some psychology classes to understand selflessness. Until you understand that concept, you and I will not be able to see eye to eye on this issue.

Oh, I see your your point alright. Probably better than you do.

You don't need a psychology class to understand the meaning of "selflessness", though you probably do need one to understand how someone can propose this corrupt doctrine as something good.

The meaning of selflessness is pretty self-evident - it means absence of self. It means concern for needs and desire for anything but yourself. It means setting up self-sacrifice, self-immolation and self-abnegation as a standard of "good".

In any morality, one of the central questions is "what should I live for"? The answer given by your doctrine of selflessness is "anything or anyone but yourself". That is the central con job of Christianity, as it is of many other religions. Once you convince someone that it is "evil" to live for oneself, you can replace the purpose of his life with anything you wish - god, the church, the king or the state. Just as long as it is not oneself. And your religion realizes that such a morality is impracticable on this earth. That one cannot consistently follow it and remain happy. Which is why it comes up with this fantasy of afterlife where you could be happy provided you accept misery here.

Do you understand what selflessness means? You probably have the naive kindergarten idea of selflessness where you get the warm, gushy feeling when you share your lunch. Or the gratitude you receive when you donate to charity. That's not being selfless, since you the expectation of the resulting emotions is what causes your acts. The fact that you are so dependent on others for your happy feelings reveals psychological issues in its own right, but that is irrelevant. You are not being selfless if your actions result in mutual benefit, because then you are not putting someone else's needs above yours, you are putting them together. And that is a rational choice to make. Actual selflessness - where you give benefit others at a loss - is irrational.