RE: Bible contradictions?
March 8, 2012 at 4:12 am
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2012 at 5:09 am by chi pan.)
(March 7, 2012 at 10:12 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: Chippy, I hate to speak ill of a saved brethren but clearly you have wimpy faith if you feel the need to indulge in apologetics. Strobel et. al. is just for the Christians losing their faith.
Faith is the conviction of things without any evidence, on the basis of the testimony of the Holy Spirit. We don't require evidence or logic. The hellbound heathens can be smug about such things but we who are saved have wisdom that comes from the grace of the Lord.
Yes, the Bible contradicts itself but this only shows the power of our Lord. Jesus was born before 4 BC and after 6 AD at the same time. He is everywhere and capable of being two contradictory things at once. That's why contradictions don't matter.
What does time mean to our Lord. He can create animals before and after creating man at the same time. He can also make round squares and straight curves.
Embrace the contradictions, knowing that they only validate just how anything is possible through our Lord.
Don't tell me how my faith is. Matthew 7:1. And I don't look for answers to tough questions for myself, I do it so I can answer them when asked. And you think my knowledge of the bible proves my lack of faith? 2 peter 1:3-4. Through the knowledge of him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and predacious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature...
To live by faith is to do and say what you believe without doubting, not without educating. It's an embarrassment when there are those of other religions who know more about your faith than you do. We should always study the bible and get a better understanding of God.
(March 7, 2012 at 6:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(March 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm)chipan Wrote:(March 7, 2012 at 4:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So now you are an expert on catholicism, too?
Or just reading your anti-papist horseshit from the other fundie nuts?
I wouldn't say expert but I've read Martin Luther's 95 theses. If you read them you will know about it too.
Do you EVER know what you are talking about? Luther's 95 feces that he threw on the door of the church in Wurttemberg was a protest against the pope selling indulgences ( today, the republibertarianeo-conazis call them "campaign contributions) and nothing to do with the fucking bible.
Mostly right, but he did say some things about the authority of the pope.
Quote: It is blasphemy to say that the insignia of the cross with the papal arms are of equal value to the cross on which Christ died.
But you are mostly right. I thought it had more complaints in there but I was mistaken. I still know of catholic beliefs. I did a lot of research on the subject and debated with a devout friend so we could challenge each other and grow in our faith.
(March 7, 2012 at 9:46 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(March 7, 2012 at 6:23 pm)chipan Wrote: You don't need the word again or prefix re to infer what it already says. He made them all and he did it again in front of Adam. And genesis chapter 2 is after one. Everything in chapter 2 is going into detail about day 6.
Actually, you do need a prefix or some other wording. "Every" means "every" unless otherwise noted.
Still waiting for how you explain the Job reference to stars being around before the world was created.
You don't understand what every refers to. When he said every animal he meant every kind of animal. He obviously did not mean every animal that exists today because they are being reproduced. He made every kind of animal that existed, then he made every kind of animal again on the sixth day after Adam and before Eve.
(March 8, 2012 at 1:57 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:(March 8, 2012 at 1:42 am)aleialoura Wrote: Ummmm... A True Christian wouldn't do that.
So, yes.
Sure we would. And then we'd ask Jesus to forgive us. This code of morality allows us to sin, be forgiven and then sin again. In fact, sin is inevitable, so we might as well enjoy.
Being saved allows us to sin without losing salvation but it does not give us a right to sin. Ephesians 4:26. Matthew 5:29-30. Saying salvation gives us right of passage to sin all we want is blasphemy. I agree that sin is inevitable, but that doesn't mean we should live sinfully.
@YahwehIsTheWay
Just to be clear, I am not trying to be high and mighty nor am I trying to demean you. I am just correcting because I can't stand for false representation of Christianity.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem