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Poll: Can atheism ever be based on faith?
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Possibly because atheism could be based not only on evidence but also on preference or intuition, this would be faith in atheism.
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Never, atheism always contradicts faith. There is no faith without belief in the supernatural.
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8 57.14%
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Is atheism ever a faith?
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RE: Is atheism ever a faith?
(October 22, 2008 at 12:48 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Thanks for the rep point there EvidenceVsFaith I appreciate it.This is a subject I can talk about for ages if I was to live that long.Honestly though,the onus to prove the existence of God does not lie with us the non-believers but with the one who is making the statement.In this case the Christians.I am of the opinion that the existence of God is unprovable for the following reasons:
1.God, if he exist does so in a supernatural realm outside of our own.One where no science can ever reach without suspending reason.

2.He cannot be put in a test tube to be analyzed.

3.He has not made any appearances or taken any interviews to state his case.

As I always say to believe in God you have to suspend logic and reason and go by faith which as I always say is nothing more than voluntary ignorance.Lets not forget also that the bible is nothing more than copies of copies written and rewritten by hand by scribes of those days and was subject to errors in interpretation and biased scribes who would change a text to conform to their own beliefs at the time.

Yes, - and if you say God is above logic, and he doesn't even need to follow logic, - you can justify anything! Its absurd. All the contradictions in the Bible/Koran/Book of Mormon, etc, can be justified because God doesn't have to even make sense in his book(s)! He could have lied about everything! There could be no heaven, no hell. Or ONLY Hell. Or only Heaven. Or only Limbo. Just use your imagination! Its absurd! Anything is justifiable if you say God doesn't need to obey logic.
And of course if God DOES have to obey logic - then all logic is against him. So he's very very very very very improbable indeed - in that case. Because according to logic, the probability that God doesn't have to obey logic to justify his existence - whatever HE is - is pretty much INFINITELY improabable.
Is this right? Or a bit OTT, etc? Can you make sense of it?
I hope I've made myself clear.
Hope that makes sense, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Messages In This Thread
Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2008 at 8:02 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Meatball - September 22, 2008 at 11:42 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2008 at 11:56 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Ace Otana - September 23, 2008 at 7:18 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 23, 2008 at 8:35 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Tiberius - September 23, 2008 at 8:30 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - September 23, 2008 at 10:17 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 23, 2008 at 10:38 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 23, 2008 at 9:11 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by starbucks - September 23, 2008 at 11:58 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2008 at 12:13 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - September 24, 2008 at 10:36 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2008 at 12:13 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Abaddon - October 2, 2008 at 4:06 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 3, 2008 at 11:53 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by imans - October 3, 2008 at 12:26 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 5, 2008 at 10:02 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 8, 2008 at 1:27 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 8, 2008 at 5:10 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2008 at 10:30 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 9, 2008 at 4:31 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 9, 2008 at 10:51 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 9, 2008 at 3:16 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Bungy - October 19, 2008 at 12:19 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2008 at 12:27 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Bungy - October 19, 2008 at 12:40 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2008 at 12:58 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Bungy - October 19, 2008 at 6:03 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 20, 2008 at 6:52 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 20, 2008 at 8:11 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 21, 2008 at 6:43 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 22, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 22, 2008 at 7:41 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Bungy - October 23, 2008 at 9:48 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 8:52 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 23, 2008 at 12:57 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 23, 2008 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 24, 2008 at 12:47 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 4:39 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Bungy - October 24, 2008 at 7:01 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 9:27 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 29, 2008 at 12:28 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 12:54 pm
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 31, 2008 at 10:41 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 10:50 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 31, 2008 at 11:04 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 11:08 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:10 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by chatpilot - October 31, 2008 at 11:10 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:13 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 11:15 am
RE: Is atheism ever a faith? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:18 am

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