(August 11, 2009 at 3:27 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: It doesn't matter what the solipsist believesIt does matter what the solipsist believes to how much complexity the solipsistic worldview contains and proposes.
(August 11, 2009 at 3:27 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: in order for either a virtual or dreamed universe to exist it must involve further layers of complexityThe solipsist acknowledges the ontological reality of the mind, and it's conscious experience of sense-data. Nothing more.
The realist acknowledges the ontological reality of the mind. Just like the solipsist. Only, he also acknowledges the ontological reality of another 100 billion minds plus an indefinite number of ontological articles existing independently of the mind.
(August 11, 2009 at 3:27 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: therefore it is entirely reasonable to say that the assumption of a physical (real) universe is a more realistic proposition and therefore any claim otherwise is the EXTRAORDINARY claim and requires EXTRAORDINARY supporting evidence i.e. the two views ARE NOT equal!You have given no real reasons to think that solipsism proposes more complexity than realism. You have only asserted that it does. You have confounded it with the metaontological proposition of a "virtual reality simulation" which affirms the ontological reality of something other than conscious experience wholly unlike solipsism.
The people who are the most bigoted are the people who have no convictions at all.
-G. K. Chesterton
-G. K. Chesterton
