Prayer Death

[dry land fish]

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Prayer does NOT work.

That depends on the definition of "prayer" and "work".

If you think it does then it's all in your head.

Can I say that if you think it doesn't, you obviously don't understand what prayer is or should be? That it could be in your head too?

I'd suggest you watch that new Bill Maher movie about religion

Ooooh did I hate that movie. Terrible, terrible film. A great job showing how bad fanaticism can get. He never touched on non-religious fanaticism, but that's OK. Then at the conclusion, what does he say? Should we be warned of fanatics? Should we try to be more moderate and open in our views? No, he says we should treat theists as people with a mental disability and abolish religion because <gasp> there are fanatics out there. He singlehandedly shot himself in the foot so hard on that point. The problem is with fanatics, and he made himself out to be fanatical about his cause. Oh, but his cause is "right" and "scientific" and "obvious". Remember, that I am also for abolishing religion, just for the right reasons.

He really puts people like you on the spot.

I promise you have not met a person like me. You don't know what people like me are like. I would love to have Bill Maher put me on the spot. I would enjoy the debate, I have a lot of things I would like to say to him. I don't think he could argue me as well, remembering that I don't come from any religion. His anti-religious research would do little good, and we could agree about the problem of fanaticism.

I've never seen anyone be able to make a Chrsitian speechless.

OK. I have. I mean, I have made Christians speechless... And seen it...

It's more useless than a hooker without a vagina.

I don't know where to start. That is horrible. That is a terrible close to your argument, and just profane and pointless as well... But hey, say what you think is important.

Show me scientific proof that prayer works.

You go first, define what you mean by "prayer" and "works" please.

Thank you for sharing, it must be heavy to have such a big opinion.

The,
-Pip

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I can believe you have made people spechless before. Your ignorance just left me that way. I'm not afraid of non religious people. I am afraid of religious people. I'm afraid for my basic rights and I'm afraid for my life. Have you seen any Atheists blowing up abortion centers? How many Atheists fly air planes into buildings or strap bombs to their chests and kill a handfull of people including themselves? You know what I mean when I say prayer doesn't work. God can't make an amputee grow new legs through prayer and he can't make a bind person see. He can't make a mentally retarded kid suddenly not be mentally retarded. Back when I sort of believed in God around the age of 10 I asked him to give me big boobs when I grew up. I was a terribly skinny kid. It didn't work...I ended up having to spend eight grand for a doctor to make them bigger. I guess you could say God has never done a thing for me but science sure has!! I have been in a tornado several times. A couple of times I was not at home and I noticed people praying (obviously at my house we don't pray). I also noticed those same people were the ones who didn't even find a safe place to stay. They just stopped right in the middle of the room and got down right there. As if they were praying it would be ok and magically God would shield them from the tornado.