RE: Are Atheists less Homophobic?
March 19, 2012 at 6:26 am
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2012 at 6:29 am by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 18, 2012 at 6:14 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, I'm looking beyond the fact that people are gay, but two people of the same-sex having the ability to procreate somehow outside the only way it can happen sounds pretty much like an abomination of nature to me.
It's not natural, but you want to appeal to emotion by misusing the word abomination. There are lots of things that are not natural, thanks to science... is flying an "abomination", is artificial insemination an abomination in heterosexual couples? Is the computer wrote this on an abomination? The argument makes no sense. Science allows for us to do things beyond nature.
(March 18, 2012 at 6:14 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Give me the damn study then. I'll read it and make up my own mind.
Its only one page back and in my initial response to you.
US National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study: Psychological Adjustment of 17-Year-Old Adolescents - Gartrell & Bos (2010)
(March 18, 2012 at 6:14 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You think you can break my with your fancy, big words, friend?
Assertion. I make no assertions. The reason why I can't produce any studies here, is because they haven't probably been made. But I talk of common sense.
If it hasn't been studied, and no notable effects observed, then stating that children are harmed by having same-sex parents is a definite assertion. Especially in light of studies which have shown no problems.
By the same reasoning, all artificial insemination is an abomination. The issue is not how the child is conceived, but how it is raised.
Quote:I don't have to speak for nature. Nature speaks for itself.
And it decrees that children can only be born from the sperm of a male, the egg and womb of a female. Is this so hard to comprehend?
Why do you insist on showing the abnormal as "normal"?
Statistical abnormality does not mean inferior and that's the point. Your common sense is wrong, nothing proves that same-sex parents are less capable as parents, and nothing proves the children are harmed in any way by such an arrangement.
Quote:And what about the social problems they'll probably face?
No higher than standard level of bullying in schools. A different focus, but no better, and no worse. Once again, no discernible evidence of negative effect on grades or psychological well being.
Another words, you're still full of it. You're claiming harm against the evidence.
Quote:I think that the reason they want to adopt children is what I mentioned above, they need a sense of belonging, and they simply use children for their own insecurities, as pets, nothing more.
Good god, are you inhuman. Gay individuals have the same reasoning for wanting a child than any other human, you are asserting again without ANY evidence.
Their built-in sexuality has no effect on this need, and are no different to a heterosexual in this respect.
Like I said before, assert assert assert, fail to produce evidence, assert.. its the same pattern.
Quote:It's very simple: love is evil when the body parts are similar.
*yawn* Assertion without evidence again. Flying is evil because humans were never meant to fly mentality. Boring Dark Age minds.
Quote:Gays try to stretch these for their own selfish needs, and use children for their means, and love has nothing to do with it.
Evidence or you're pulling things out of your repressed ass again. At best, a delusion, at worst, deliberate lying.
Quote:It does not, like if there is *love* in an incestious relationship, and those two siblings, or whatever pairings you choose, want to get married, adopt or give birth to their own children, what exactly would you suggest that should be done, my sarcastic friend?
By your logic, the standard institution of male and female marriage should allow incestuous relationships does it not?
Its natural because its a man and a woman, and they can even have biological children without the need for science.
Your argument applies equally, and potentially even more than allowing gay marriage, and is therefore nonsense.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm