(August 12, 2009 at 8:32 pm)Jon Paul Wrote: And that's all I mean with "consciousness", the fact of being conscious.
Good.
Quote:Theres no evidence that there is a necessary causative link between the brain and consciousness.There's no evidence of consciousness seperate to the evidenced fact that it is effected when the brain is, therefore that it has a relationship to the brain. There's no reason to believe it's anything furhter than the workings of the brain. Like I said, I have self-evidence that I'm conscious, but not that consciousness is an external property. And there's evidence that it is effected when the brain is (if I get knocked unconscious), so once again, there's no reason to believe that it's anything more than the workings of the brain, because there's no evidence to anything further...or that it exists at all as a phenonmenon in and of itself that can exist without the brain.
Quote:That is not demonstrable given solipsism. It is only demonstrable given p-zeds because p-zeds is a naturalistic/realist ontology, and thus it grants the existence of an independently existing reality outside of the conscious experience of it.
Solipsim fails then, because solipsism requires for there to be no other minds other than one's own...and since p-zeds are incoherent, others are likely to have minds so solipsism is likely to be bullshit.
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