RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 3:04 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2012 at 3:08 pm by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm)Hunter9035 Wrote: Ok Stimbo point taken. I suppose you could use the authority of Jesus Christ to summon your demons to reveal themselves in His name and see if anything manifests but with no faith in a higher power to protect you that's a dangerous game to play. That said, if you do, please explain what you experienced.
That was highly unrelated to Stimbos video (which is superb by the way, recommended watching for anybody).
Okay, Stimbo is too valuable to risk, so I retired to the bathroom and used this phrase.
I must confess to feeling a bit nervous, like the childhood game "Candyman" but you wouldn't enjoy a good horror movie if you weren't allowed a bit of irrational fear.
"I invoke the authority of Jesus Christ and demand my demons manifest"
Nothing happened, so I stared intently in the mirror and said again
"On the authority of Jesus Christ, Lord Almighty, I command my demons to show themselves"
Just in case I got the words wrong.
Looks like I'm demon free. I have tested your hypothesis and found no cause. It does occur to me however, if by coincidence, even a small thing happened, like a light dimming at that point, it would have scared the bejeeeeeezuz out of me
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The danger, if you don't mind me saying, is more in the minds ability to play up to your own fears. If you wholeheartedly believe in demons and jesus, its not unreasonable to assume your mind will supply exactly what you expect.
I feel a bit silly now, but I thought it only fair to act test your idea out.
EDIT: I should also point out, it would be natural of you to be skeptical whether I have done, and I swear on my own childrens life I have done so, I can make no more solemn promise. If you are skeptical, you can at least now understand our skepticism.
(March 20, 2012 at 2:51 pm)Hunter9035 Wrote: Stimbo yes the video explains how two people who see the same thing can see different things or explain it away or call it supernatural whatever. Giving you my witnesses would not only violate their privacy but I doubt you'd really follow up with them or believe more hearsay. So I invite you to summon your demons in the name of Jesus Christ, to reveal themselves and tell me how you explain your experience. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't have faith in Jesus to protect you from them.
See above. Sorry, nothing. I have to say, this preoccupation with demons is extremely worrying. Who fed you this? Because its not even mainstream Christianity to believe we all have demons inside of us like that. You seriously worry me that someone is taking extreme advantage of your personal traumas.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm