RE: Serious Query Regarding Jesus
March 30, 2012 at 5:36 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2012 at 5:38 am by NoMoreFaith.)
Not entirely unfeasible, although more likely to actually be religious, simply trying to correct things he saw as immoral. He almost certainly had to be religious, especially since he insists you should follow the laws of the Torah (which involves a LOT of killing over minor things).
The only real problem I see, other than the lack of historicity in the biblical new testament of his existence at all, is that his moral values are not as superior to the old testament as is being made out. Without divine reason, a lot of it is just hokum.
He still threatens people with hell if they don't believe in his divinity, not something I would expect if he was just wearing a mask of religion to cover his motives to improve religious law.
Slaying his enemies... stealing donkeys, killing fig trees because it annoyed him.
If we point towards the Golden Rule, that is the most cited part of the teaching of Jesus, it was already a fairly well known moral philosophy for 500 years or so, so its hardly original, OR an improvement.
His teachings do not equate morality with humanistic reasoning, just blind faith, your sins forgiven if you truly repent. Nobody talks more than Jesus when it comes to being tortured.
Even if he WAS piggybacking Judaic cult religion, his teachings did not really exceed what was already considered correct, and has no real claim, without divinity to being a great moral teacher. The best you can do is point out corruption in the Church, but thats a given for any large organisation with power.
The only real problem I see, other than the lack of historicity in the biblical new testament of his existence at all, is that his moral values are not as superior to the old testament as is being made out. Without divine reason, a lot of it is just hokum.
He still threatens people with hell if they don't believe in his divinity, not something I would expect if he was just wearing a mask of religion to cover his motives to improve religious law.
Slaying his enemies... stealing donkeys, killing fig trees because it annoyed him.
If we point towards the Golden Rule, that is the most cited part of the teaching of Jesus, it was already a fairly well known moral philosophy for 500 years or so, so its hardly original, OR an improvement.
His teachings do not equate morality with humanistic reasoning, just blind faith, your sins forgiven if you truly repent. Nobody talks more than Jesus when it comes to being tortured.
Even if he WAS piggybacking Judaic cult religion, his teachings did not really exceed what was already considered correct, and has no real claim, without divinity to being a great moral teacher. The best you can do is point out corruption in the Church, but thats a given for any large organisation with power.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
