Quote:Your argument runs the assumption [yes, assumption] that these twelve DID know.
Incorrect, Creed. His "argument" ( such as it is) makes the assumption that the "12" were any more real than their fucking godboy.
The purpose of giving "jesus" 12 special friends is to serve as the Greek chorus to this little drama. They are 12 of the dumbest motherfuckers going. Everytime their boy does one of his magic tricks their only function is to say "Oh, wow...HOLY SHIT, JESUS!!!!" You'd think they'd catch on after a while and expect it but they always seem surprised.
I'm afraid idiots like G-C buy the whole story, hook, line and sinker which is not unexpected given the general level of uncritical thinking which is part and parcel of being a "believer" in the first place.