Quote:Many others have sighted Jebel al Lawz as Mt. Sinai,
TJ Wrote:Sadly based on Ron Wyatt's supposed theory to which is utter nonsense
Wyatt did not develop this idea, as I said others did years before, they were on this site without the Saudis knowing it, the fences went up at the site only after Wyatt made this information public. You have ignored what I posted for your biased opinion.
Quote: there is no way that people of any number would be able to stay at the base of an erupting volcano, let lone live there for a year.
TJ Wrote:Wrong.. You don't know much about the Hawiian Islands do you? Or know much about volcanoes eh?
I have been to Hawaii recently, and I do know something about volcanoes, unlike yourself. The Hawaii volcanoes are not a good example to use, first of all they are in a tropical setting, allowing people comfortable temps mainly because of an almost constant breeze coming off the cool ocean waters. Second there is plenty of water, it rains some where on the islands every day, fresh water is no more than a puddle away, let lone all the fresh water that runs off the mountains. I have not seen anyone in Hawaii that lives on the lava flows and if you take a tour to the flows you must wear boots to protect your feet. Encase you haven't noticed the volcano on the main island has destroyed many subdivisions and people do not rebuild on these cooled flows. Just a few facts eh.
Quote:The ash which would be considerable according to your research would have killed all living creatures.
TJ Wrote:It can do that.. However, not every eruption is a MT Saint Hellens kind of eruption either.. And it really depends where you are in relation to the volcano.. I almost wonder if you have even bothered to watch the time lapse video of the Ice land volcano, or videos of other volcanoes from a relatively close distance.
Those relatively close views are done with powerful lenses on the cameras. You are right not every volcano is like Mt. St. Hellens, however the description you give of the volcano producing lightning takes a large amount of ash in the atmosphere. The Israel people would be familiar with ash, because an island volcano in the Mediterranean Sea cover the Nile delta around 1500BC and killed many people. Since this is the area they lived near they would have known and feared this kind of an eruption, do not come back with these people would not know about deadly eruptions, they were not stupid people as you would have them to be, you need them to be stupid to fit your ideas. People who could raise up the great building works as they did were not stupid, that is an idea you need to get over.
Quote: The heat would have been unbearable especially in that climate. The threat of lava would have keep the people away.
TJ Wrote:Yep, that's why Hawaii and the Azores are barren wastelands of nobody living there.. oh wait... people live there! And the Hawaiian people live on the volcano and not at it's base to which is far below sea level. And why would people worshiping a volcano GOD keep away from their GOD? Did you bother to think about this? And it does state in the bible that during the supposed eruption that the people did stand afar as they watched it. This which probably means they weren't sitting at the very bottom of it... Also, people still live in that region. Yes there are still nomads in the area to this very day!
I have already addressed those islands and no need to revisit. They did not worship a volcano god, they worshiped a real and powerful God. People like you will use any crazy idea to eliminate the true God, try as you may He is never going away. Do you know what nomad means, they do not stay in one place for a year, they have to move because of limited resources. The Israeli nation camped at the bottom of this mountain for a year, where they had water and food supplied by God, your volcano could not do this, you completely ignored my question and statement about the water. Exodus 19 says the people camped before the mountain and God warned that no one not even a beast shall touch the mountain, these people were not afraid of the mountain, they had to be warned not to go up on the mountain, sound scared eh.
Quote:What about water, there is little rain fall in that area, at best one inch a year, so no surface water would have been available to them, and if there were any wells they would have been contaminated by the active volcano, the water would have been unfit to drink or any other uses for that matter.
TJ Wrote:Many people in that region were nomadic. The shasu for example were nomadic, and this has little bearing on whether or not they worshiped a volcano as a god. You're basically grasping at straws there. Also, you don't know which area they actually were in, or which Volcano they were at in the region as there are several volcanoes in the area at the northern tip of the Red Sea, and even more along the Eastern shore. MT Sinai could be any one of them, or all of them.. Chances are, all volcanoes in the region were likely considered the same GOD.
Grasping at straws, don't think so, these people needed water and God provided the water. You are deliberately avoiding this because you have no answer for an essential need. If you knew about volcanoes you would know that if there is no fresh running surface water from rain there is no good water to use for every day needs. I challenge you to go to Yellow Stone and drink the water, the waters that come out from the ground in the caldera, take some ice.
Quote: I don't know about you, but most people would have enough sense not to go up on a volcano as it was erupting, Moses would more than likely have been poisoned by the gases that the volcano would be releasing, you write as if one could just stroll up to an erupting volcano, as if strolling through a park on a clear spring day.
TJ Wrote:Firstly, these people had no idea what a volcano really was as these people thought it was GOD. Also, you are assuming Moses even existed or that anyone actually went up during a full on eruption. Volcanoes can smoke long before they erupt. And again you are ignoring over half the content I posted in my article that clearly outlines this GOD as a Volcano. The evidence I provide is quite overwhelming, and I have yet to post much of what I have on the subject. For example, I am still going through the Qur'an, and I have found more info on the Shasu ect..
You got to be kidding, these people are not stupid, they did not know the enter workings of a volcano, they did however know they will devastate everything around. If you take away Moses and his accent on the mountain, you might as well do away with the whole story, don't be so ridiculous. What you have posted is nothing more than a way to put away the God of creation, and as far as I'm concerned it is a giant fail. The only thing the Qur'an would have to say about this would be copied from the Torah. the Qur'an was written nearly 2500 years after the Torah.
Quote: I believe you have over looked the reality of such an adventure. Also how would people camp on volcanic fields, the cooled lava is extremely sharp and there leather sandals would not afford them much protection, and that would be for the ones who actually had sandals.
TJ Wrote:Again you are speaking from assumption and ignoring the evidence that suggests otherwise. This to which includes people whom have worshiped Pelee, and still do. Yep, these people make the trek all the time! They even burned incense, or various things for their GOD just like the Christians did for theirs!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5myS40hkYJ0&
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http://video.nationalgeographic.com/vide...lcano-vin/
Assumption, go walk on a lava field in sandals then come tell me of an assumption, I think about the real aspects of life, how these people could live at the base of a mountain or for you a volcano for a year. Next if people worship Pelee today that has no bearing on the Israeli nation of old. Bet they would not trek up Pelee if it was erupting. The vids were cute and nothing more than that.
Quote: You are correct in saying Jebel al Lawz is not a volcano, yet the granite top of the mountain has been severally scorched, there has never been any vegetation growing on top of the mountain to burn, so how did it become that devastated.
TJ Wrote:Actually that proves literally nothing.. And suggesting people worship a brush fire is rather hilarious. And nor does a brush fire match the evidence and description in the bible what-so-ever.
What brush fire are you talking about, I never mentioned a brush fire. Actually I said there could not be a fire because there was no vegetation on Jebel al Lawz other than a few bushes. Get real and address the question, how could the granite top, and only the top, have been burnt so badly that it will fracture like glass.
Quote: By the way Ron Wyatt was not the first to claim Jebel al Lawz as Mt. Sinai, and in actuality his information came from others who were in country long before him, and they had to keep secret that they had studied al Lawz for years, because they were still in country and could have gone to prison for many years if caught.
TJ Wrote:I'm sure many people trying to attach MT Sinai to anything other than a volcano will... The problem is, the actual archeology and scripture tells us otherwise. You can either deal with that fact of reality, or you can't.
The problem lies with you and your ridiculous idea of a volcano god, you read into scripture what you want to see, why, because you want to do away with the God of creation.
Quote: The Saudis are funny that way, they have fenced off many historic sites to keep people from discovering much of the history that area holds.
TJ Wrote:No, they fenced it off because it's a load of crap. It's been determined as such for quite a while now. Even the supposed cave of Mosses has been debunked as a Nabatean tomb.. It's a long since dead theory that no serious archeologist or scholar will bother with. The only ones that will, will likely be those with vested interest in the religion in order to protect it. And we haven't seen that going on where every archeological find was magically tagged to Christianity and the bible only later to be shown to having nothing to do with Christianity or the bible. Right?.. Nah.. So how about addressing the article vs clinging on to assumptions and already proven wrong theories about MT Sinai?
If it were a load of crap there would be no reason for them to fence it and other sights off, tell me why have they not fenced off your purposed site. It's like this, they know it is no threat to there beliefs, they will do everything they can to keep christian truth from coming out, so they fences off those areas. The Saudis are notorious for lying and covering things up, you need to get real and come out of your deluded world.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.