RE: Morality
April 14, 2012 at 3:36 pm
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2012 at 3:56 pm by NoMoreFaith.)
(April 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm)Drich Wrote:(April 14, 2012 at 1:55 am)Drich Wrote: I say that to help those looking to frame questions based on "morality." Most of the time it is used an absolute standard when in fact it is not.NoMoreFaith Wrote:Says who?You just did right here:
Quote: I think most would agree morality is definitely relative according to the society which creates it.I have said the same thing. Because it changes from society to society generation to generation, it by definition can not be an absolute standard. For absolute standards never change.
So why are you getting pissy? I agreed morality was relative? I think you are getting clouded in your judgement and how you respond merely because I have a history of calling you out on bullshit. The point is, who usually uses it as an absolute standard? Not many atheists would say there was an absolute standard. We agree.
NoMoreFaith Wrote:There are some relative morality which are universal, murder has always been one of these things,not because of righteousness, but because some rules simply cannot persist in a successful society in order for it to survive.
(April 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm)Drich Wrote: Wrong again murder in the right circumstance was sanctioned by various societies; Rome, 1940's Germany Even in the United States Manifest destiny demanded the murder of millions of Native Americans on a private and on a governmental level.
So, I state Murder is usually confirmed as a universal morality, and you equate it that I said Murder was an absolute?
Once again, I charge that you are letting our prior disagreements cloud your judgement. Thats what relativity is defined as. The watching world and recipients of your examples probably didn't see it as moral

The only issue here that we disagree on, is that righteousness is something illusionary, although by all means absolute in your mind.
That you believe strongly in it; If that works for you, but its still derived solely from the bible, and that isn't a compliment.
Also, please read up on quoting, it makes your posts a little difficult to read. Cheers.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm