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Is purposeless torture moral?
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RE: Is purposeless torture moral?
(April 19, 2012 at 2:10 am)Cinjin Wrote:
(April 19, 2012 at 1:29 am)Godschild Wrote:
(April 19, 2012 at 12:19 am)Cinjin Wrote: So you're telling me that the Bible is just kidding? That being thrown into a lake of fire for all eternity is just some silly metaphor, because I know A LOT of christians who believe that hell is a place of infinite unending merciless torture for humans as well as the boogeyman.

Is that part of the Bible not god's inspired word?
You do realize, that there are christians, such as my father who would call you a false prophet and a heretic for saying that the Bible isn't telling the word for word truth and that people like me an Min aren't actually going to burn forever. You do know this right?

No scripture never kids, I know many christians that believe hell is a place of judgement where people will suffer for eternity. I just don't share their view, am I right or are they, I could not say 100%. The way I see hell, we are totally responsible for our fate, getting there and spending eternity there. God use fire as a way to explain that hell is the most terrible place one could spend eternity, there is no way that man could understand hell as being the absents of all love, and the misery that no love brings.
I believe this about other christians and my view about hell, once I explain my view they would see that my view of hell is more frightening and horrible than just a lake of fire. Most do not accept my view, but they do see that I believe there is eternal punishment. You see I do not believe God would torture people, I do believe God is going to allow people to torment themselves, in a way that will be worse than a lake of fire.

Pathetic apologists semantics.
You don't like the idea of god "torturing" people, so you just put the blame on the people themselves. As if anyone at any time would ever torture themselves! I mean holy shit, do you really think any of us are going to buy that horse shit?? Under this "logic" can I simply tell god that I don't want to torture myself? WHAT?!? I HAVE to go to hell?! WHAT??! it's WORSE than being burned alive for all time (which by the way, we've already established would be torture, so now you're saying that god tortures you with something WORSE than fire.) But god I'm so confused, Godschild told me that my punishment was not being with you in heaven, but now I'm finding out that Hell is so much WORSE than being burned alive ... and not just that but I'm torturing myself?!?!?!

Why would I do that god?! Why would I want to torture myself for all eternity?!? Why would I cast myself into Hell?!?!

Oh thats right ..... you did that.

ABSURD EXCUSES FOR AN ABSOLUTELY STUPID RELIGION!

ROFLOL driving the point home.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 12, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by NoMoreFaith - April 12, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 13, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Nine - April 12, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 2:56 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Killman - April 12, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Welsh cake - April 12, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Nine - April 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 13, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 13, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 13, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 12, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 18, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 2:44 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 3:00 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 12, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 13, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 12, 2012 at 11:31 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 13, 2012 at 7:36 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 14, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 14, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 14, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by padraic - April 15, 2012 at 12:32 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 6:50 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 19, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 19, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 19, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Welsh cake - April 19, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 19, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 20, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 20, 2012 at 2:52 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 21, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 21, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 22, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 22, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 22, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2012 at 9:57 pm

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