Quote:You're an absolute idiot. I'm not going to discuss this crap with you,

Congrats GC, you win one internet for the most outrageously ironic statement this year so far.

(April 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(April 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: Please show me were you find the word torture in scripture, if you can not then please drop the subject, this subject has been posted to death.

Copout.

The words Trinity or Rapture are not in the scriptures either. That doesn't mean their principles are not in there.

Burning billions of souls for the rest of eternity is torture and if you don't believe me, place a flame under your kid's finger for 1 minute.

I'm so tired of your tired semantics arguments. Punishment would simply be denial into Heaven ... no no ... TORTURE is excruciating infliction of pain that never comes to an end.

Get over yourselves and just admit it.

I have not said that one will burn in hell forever, as a matter of fact denial of heaven is what I have proposed, that hell is a lonely and dark place.

(April 18, 2012 at 11:56 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(April 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(April 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: Please show me were you find the word torture in scripture, if you can not then please drop the subject, this subject has been posted to death.

The words Trinity or Rapture are not in the scriptures either. That doesn't mean their principles are not in there.
Burning billions of souls for the rest of eternity is torture and if you don't believe me, place a flame under your kid's finger for 1 minute.
I'm so tired of your tired semantics arguments. Punishment would simply be denial into Heaven ... no no ... TORTURE is excruciating infliction of pain that never comes to an end.

I have not said that one will burn in hell forever, as a matter of fact denial of heaven is what I have proposed, that hell is a lonely and dark place.

So you're telling me that the Bible is just kidding? That being thrown into a lake of fire for all eternity is just some silly metaphor, because I know A LOT of christians who believe that hell is a place of infinite unending merciless torture for humans as well as the boogeyman.

Is that part of the Bible not god's inspired word?
You do realize, that there are christians, such as my father who would call you a false prophet and a heretic for saying that the Bible isn't telling the word for word truth and that people like me an Min aren't actually going to burn forever. You do know this right?

(April 19, 2012 at 12:19 am)Cinjin Wrote:

(April 18, 2012 at 11:56 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(April 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(April 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: Please show me were you find the word torture in scripture, if you can not then please drop the subject, this subject has been posted to death.

The words Trinity or Rapture are not in the scriptures either. That doesn't mean their principles are not in there.
Burning billions of souls for the rest of eternity is torture and if you don't believe me, place a flame under your kid's finger for 1 minute.
I'm so tired of your tired semantics arguments. Punishment would simply be denial into Heaven ... no no ... TORTURE is excruciating infliction of pain that never comes to an end.

I have not said that one will burn in hell forever, as a matter of fact denial of heaven is what I have proposed, that hell is a lonely and dark place.

So you're telling me that the Bible is just kidding? That being thrown into a lake of fire for all eternity is just some silly metaphor, because I know A LOT of christians who believe that hell is a place of infinite unending merciless torture for humans as well as the boogeyman.

Is that part of the Bible not god's inspired word?
You do realize, that there are christians, such as my father who would call you a false prophet and a heretic for saying that the Bible isn't telling the word for word truth and that people like me an Min aren't actually going to burn forever. You do know this right?

No scripture never kids, I know many christians that believe hell is a place of judgement where people will suffer for eternity. I just don't share their view, am I right or are they, I could not say 100%. The way I see hell, we are totally responsible for our fate, getting there and spending eternity there. God use fire as a way to explain that hell is the most terrible place one could spend eternity, there is no way that man could understand hell as being the absents of all love, and the misery that no love brings.
I believe this about other christians and my view about hell, once I explain my view they would see that my view of hell is more frightening and horrible than just a lake of fire. Most do not accept my view, but they do see that I believe there is eternal punishment. You see I do not believe God would torture people, I do believe God is going to allow people to torment themselves, in a way that will be worse than a lake of fire.

(April 19, 2012 at 1:29 am)Godschild Wrote:

(April 19, 2012 at 12:19 am)Cinjin Wrote: So you're telling me that the Bible is just kidding? That being thrown into a lake of fire for all eternity is just some silly metaphor, because I know A LOT of christians who believe that hell is a place of infinite unending merciless torture for humans as well as the boogeyman.

Is that part of the Bible not god's inspired word?
You do realize, that there are christians, such as my father who would call you a false prophet and a heretic for saying that the Bible isn't telling the word for word truth and that people like me an Min aren't actually going to burn forever. You do know this right?

No scripture never kids, I know many christians that believe hell is a place of judgement where people will suffer for eternity. I just don't share their view, am I right or are they, I could not say 100%. The way I see hell, we are totally responsible for our fate, getting there and spending eternity there. God use fire as a way to explain that hell is the most terrible place one could spend eternity, there is no way that man could understand hell as being the absents of all love, and the misery that no love brings.
I believe this about other christians and my view about hell, once I explain my view they would see that my view of hell is more frightening and horrible than just a lake of fire. Most do not accept my view, but they do see that I believe there is eternal punishment. You see I do not believe God would torture people, I do believe God is going to allow people to torment themselves, in a way that will be worse than a lake of fire.

Pathetic apologists semantics.
You don't like the idea of god "torturing" people, so you just put the blame on the people themselves. As if anyone at any time would ever torture themselves! I mean holy shit, do you really think any of us are going to buy that horse shit?? Under this "logic" can I simply tell god that I don't want to torture myself? WHAT?!? I HAVE to go to hell?! WHAT??! it's WORSE than being burned alive for all time (which by the way, we've already established would be torture, so now you're saying that god tortures you with something WORSE than fire.) But god I'm so confused, Godschild told me that my punishment was not being with you in heaven, but now I'm finding out that Hell is so much WORSE than being burned alive ... and not just that but I'm torturing myself?!?!?!

Why would I do that god?! Why would I want to torture myself for all eternity?!? Why would I cast myself into Hell?!?!

Oh thats right ..... you did that.

@ Cinjin

Please refrain from using large colored letters as this is a tactic often used by fundamentalist Christians to make a bad point appear as if its worthy of note.
Yours is a good point and so you should not sully it by doing as such.

(April 19, 2012 at 2:14 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Please refrain from using large colored letters as this is a tactic often used by fundamentalist Christians to make a bad point appear as if its worthy of note.
Yours is a good point and so you should not sully it by doing as such.

Your sentiment is understood, but the option to change the size and coloring of letters is there for a reason. When used sparingly, it draws attention to a feeling or remark that you wanted to make the reader see.

I certainly do not overuse this feature, so I think I will leave it as it stands. If it helps, consider it a picture that I added at the end to drive the point home ... which I do often.

(April 19, 2012 at 2:20 am)Cinjin Wrote:

(April 19, 2012 at 2:14 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Please refrain from using large colored letters as this is a tactic often used by fundamentalist Christians to make a bad point appear as if its worthy of note.
Yours is a good point and so you should not sully it by doing as such.

Your sentiment is understood, but the option to change the size and coloring of letters is there for a reason. When used sparingly, it draws attention to a feeling or remark that you wanted to make the reader see.

I certainly do not overuse this feature, so I think I will leave it as it stands. If it helps, consider it a picture that I added at the end to drive the point home ... which I do often.

Oh come on, those pictures are funny and you know it.

(April 19, 2012 at 2:10 am)Cinjin Wrote:

(April 19, 2012 at 1:29 am)Godschild Wrote:

(April 19, 2012 at 12:19 am)Cinjin Wrote: So you're telling me that the Bible is just kidding? That being thrown into a lake of fire for all eternity is just some silly metaphor, because I know A LOT of christians who believe that hell is a place of infinite unending merciless torture for humans as well as the boogeyman.

Is that part of the Bible not god's inspired word?
You do realize, that there are christians, such as my father who would call you a false prophet and a heretic for saying that the Bible isn't telling the word for word truth and that people like me an Min aren't actually going to burn forever. You do know this right?

No scripture never kids, I know many christians that believe hell is a place of judgement where people will suffer for eternity. I just don't share their view, am I right or are they, I could not say 100%. The way I see hell, we are totally responsible for our fate, getting there and spending eternity there. God use fire as a way to explain that hell is the most terrible place one could spend eternity, there is no way that man could understand hell as being the absents of all love, and the misery that no love brings.
I believe this about other christians and my view about hell, once I explain my view they would see that my view of hell is more frightening and horrible than just a lake of fire. Most do not accept my view, but they do see that I believe there is eternal punishment. You see I do not believe God would torture people, I do believe God is going to allow people to torment themselves, in a way that will be worse than a lake of fire.

Pathetic apologists semantics.
You don't like the idea of god "torturing" people, so you just put the blame on the people themselves. As if anyone at any time would ever torture themselves! I mean holy shit, do you really think any of us are going to buy that horse shit?? Under this "logic" can I simply tell god that I don't want to torture myself? WHAT?!? I HAVE to go to hell?! WHAT??! it's WORSE than being burned alive for all time (which by the way, we've already established would be torture, so now you're saying that god tortures you with something WORSE than fire.) But god I'm so confused, Godschild told me that my punishment was not being with you in heaven, but now I'm finding out that Hell is so much WORSE than being burned alive ... and not just that but I'm torturing myself?!?!?!

Why would I do that god?! Why would I want to torture myself for all eternity?!? Why would I cast myself into Hell?!?!

Oh thats right ..... you did that.

ABSURD EXCUSES FOR AN ABSOLUTELY STUPID RELIGION!

driving the point home.

(April 19, 2012 at 2:49 am)Godschild Wrote: driving the point home.

stop playing for time because you have no retort.