(April 23, 2012 at 6:51 am)Memz Wrote:(April 23, 2012 at 5:46 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Ideas are fine, just be wary of attributing truth content to them based on subjectivity.Do you think that by any means that the natural order you have mentioned is gonna change ?
Rather than evil, if a God existed, I would suspect apathy rather than outright evil, he just lets the natural world get on with things without intervention.
In truth, when you talk about proof of God, most of the time its proof of intervention.
Taking it down a notch, and you realise that an apathetic God becomes an overcomplication to the natural order of things.
Depends on what you think of as the natural order. For me the natural order consists of the laws of physics. And so I don't see them changing any time soon, if at all.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero