RE: The secret of the Illuminati and why they are identifiable yet unstoppable.
April 26, 2012 at 11:53 am
(April 26, 2012 at 11:19 am)Stimbo Wrote:(April 26, 2012 at 11:12 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Instead I think that they are just an international organisation that is bent on making more money, and securing it's own interests and that of it's members.
You've just described every large business corporation in the world. Must they all be sinister secret organisations?
They might be, or might not be. But I don't think that it's just reserved to the corporates. It extends to politicians, media patrons, or people who are socially influential, like pop-stars and etc.
I'm not saying that every large corporate is a mason. But I'm sure that there are several very high and influential people amongst them, since they never were really liked neither in the east, nor the west.
Quote:Yes, it is. You think the folks at golf clubs and kennel clubs don't have "interests" in politics or finance individually and collectively? Jesus Christ Mehm....Even if they do, they do so on a personal scale, and golf and dogs are not really interests that are comperable to the interests that one must have if one joins the freemasons...Like going through a weird ritual of some sort, getting his breast pierced by a knife and swearing loyalty and etc...
You could say that these ring like conspiracy theories, but an illustration is present on the wikipedia page you've posted...
Quote:They probably should have been told to cease those activities, rather than be told to cease assembling, again, our perspective of justice and liberty, your shitty system is your own business.Well, they were told by our Sultan Abdulhamid Khan the second, but they did not listen, obviously.
Finally, our founder Atatürk has had the last of them. He told them to close down their lodges and disperse.
Your perspective of justice and liberty is really moot to me. It doesn't really work for you beyond a symbolic gesture. It's there to fool you, nothing more. What can I say, it's the same here, since we had seen it fit to copy your views on liberty and justice. It goes no further than to disperse justice on the basis on how influential and rich a person is, nor to grant it liberty further than that.
We Turkists have no liberty in Turkey, while our enemies now enjoy every liberty granted to them by the false justice system that works in their favour, not ours.
Quote:Criticizing others for looking to their own interests all the while extolling the virtues of the state looking out specifically for your own is a bankrupt line of argumentation Mehm.Looking out for their own interests in the expense of our nation and people?
Such people are nothing more than traitors in my eyes, may they be masons or not. Masons are just more dangerous than others due to their interwoven connections and links with eachother. They are better organized and secretive.
Closing down their legal representatives does not cease their activities, but at least lays a few stones on their path until we can identify who these individuals are, and deal with them one by one.
Quote:Are you going to make your "Protocols of the Elders of Freemasonry" case or moan about something else?We do not moan, friend. We act. For now, we just bide our time until we can regain our strength, politically. And when we do, we will have both the public and the army on our side. Who could dare to stand against us?
They either turn to the light, or they perish in the darkness.
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