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Can God love?
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RE: Can God love?
(April 29, 2012 at 4:41 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Without doctrine, what therefore is your basis for believing in god?

Well I believe I have been given knowledge of God in a properly basic manner. I've explained this before and people differing about properly basic knowledge doesn't mean it cannot exist.

I also believe I can witness my soul existing, and that it's not simply an assembly of material things giving me existence, but that I'm immaterial and of a unified substance. The existence of a soul lends itself obviously to believe in a supernatural creator.

I also believe morality points to being eternally based, without that quality, it would be arbitrary and a delusion, which we know it's not, by our very knowledge of it, and also it points towards ultimate authority to the highest possible degree which to me can only be God, because he is the Ultimate Highest possible degree. I also believe greatness and honour must be eternally based.

I also believe infinite regress is proven false, which means a first cause, which I don't believe something material can give rise to time and the laws that come with time. While this notion doesn't prove God, it does lend strongly to the idea, when looking at creation, our morality, fruits, friendship, emotions, love, etc, that Moral Creator exists, which lends the idea there is a strong possibility we would have been given some sort of knowledge of him. This supports the notion (although not conclusively) that I do have properly basic knowledge of God.

Some more reasons is that I don't believe everything that exists could have came out of natural means. Of these things is consciousness. I don't think conciousness could have emerged from non-consciousness. I don't think there is any way natural selection and mutations lead towards that. It's not heading towards that direction by any means. There has to be a step between consciousness and non-consciousness, but I don't believe evolution can produce that. The same is true of some other things in nature.







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Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 27, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Cinjin - April 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Tobie - April 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Cinjin - April 27, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 28, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 28, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Paul the Human - April 27, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Paul the Human - April 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - April 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 27, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Can God love? - by mediamogul - April 27, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Can God love? - by simplexity - April 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Can God love? - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Can God love? - by Faith No More - April 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Faith No More - April 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - April 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Norfolk And Chance - April 29, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Norfolk And Chance - April 29, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 1, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 30, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 30, 2012 at 7:18 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 1, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - May 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 2, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 3, 2012 at 8:10 am
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 3, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 3, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: Can God love? - by genkaus - May 3, 2012 at 5:37 am
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Can God love? - by genkaus - May 3, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 3, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 4, 2012 at 4:11 am
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 4, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 4, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 5, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Can God love? - by KichigaiNeko - May 3, 2012 at 6:55 am
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm
RE: Can God love? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 8, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - May 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 3, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Angrboda - May 3, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - May 5, 2012 at 3:36 am
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - May 7, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Undeceived - May 7, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 8, 2012 at 2:56 am
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 8, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 8, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 9, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 9, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - May 8, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - May 8, 2012 at 7:47 pm

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