RE: Can God love?
May 2, 2012 at 11:51 am
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2012 at 11:58 am by Greatest I am.)
(May 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm)jess_essential Wrote: I find these questions to be rather irrelevant concerning that I do not even believe in a heaven or a hell. Now, for the people who care to believe in a hell, I would answer as such:
Quote:1. People in the real world do little stuff and get punished big for it. Why not in "hell"? Punishment should be universal. If you commit a crime, you should be punished for said crime.
I agree but to give the same punishment to all crimes is not justice.
A petty thief should not be punished as severely as a murderer and if we would do so, every petty thief would kill to escape the punishment he will get.
Quote:2. If I stole mascara, and my counterpart robbed a bank, I would hope that we wouldn't even be in the same vicinity when being in jail. Does this mean that there should be a concept of different levels for "hell" for the believers, I am not sure.
Most only have one hell for all.
Quote:3. The only thing that torturing something does is attempt to force them into compliance. If one is not complying, it usually get's it worse. It happens in almost every situation where torture is present.
True but even if compliance is gained by God in hell, the torture continues on into eternity.
Quote:4. Killing presents quick release, torture is much more effective when trying to imprint what was done wrong into the wrong dooer's head.
True again but if that imprinting is successful and torture continues then it is done just for the sake of cruelty as no other benefit is to be gained.
Quote:-- There is no "good justice", and there never will be.
Could you expand on this thought?
It may be that we will never have or indeed want a perfect justice system but I think we can work to progress in that direction and I see some good aspects to the justice systems that secular governments are coming up with.
Regards
DL
(May 2, 2012 at 12:06 am)Godschild Wrote: [
When God judges those who are going to hell they will understand why, no imprinting by torture necessary. A quick release is no punishment for one who has sinned against an eternal God, because God is eternal and will not forgive the sin of those in hell, the sin remains and is eternal.
And the purpose for this everlasting punishment in hell is what if not just a show of cruelty?
What does God or anyone else gain?
Regards
DL
