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Can God love?
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RE: Can God love?
(May 3, 2012 at 9:13 pm)Engel Wrote:
(May 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm glad God doesn't listen to people like you. A sin not forgiven is eternal, once committed it is doesn't disappear unless God forgives it. An omniscient God never forgets unless He chooses to, and He has chosen to only through His Son.

A "sin" disappears once reparations have been made to the person it was committed against. I wouldn't even use the term "sin". It is a person who has done wrong in my eyes and in society's eyes, thus he has committed an offense against me. Once I forgive him, or her, then their "sin" might as well be forgotten, as nobody is hurt by it any longer. I don't need a god to forgive my sins for me, and his inability to forgive something that man already has just makes him a spiteful dick. And why through his "son"? Jesus was just a man quite like any other. Until you can furnish some legitimate, non-Christian account from the time that accounts for Jesus' resurrection, then I will continue to view him as such. In the words of Martin Luther, "Unless I am convinced by textual evidence and plain reasoning, I cannot and will not recant".Violin

Sorry I missed it some how, could be age is getting to my brain these days.
I've addressed this in other threads, I will give it another shot. If you are serious about the answer you need to consider you or I are not God or anything close. God being perfectly righteous and God to all men, sees that a transgression (sin) is against his righteous standard, and the forgiveness of said sin/s must be asked for through belief in Christ. Now God being eternal, the sin/s against His righteous standard are eternal, even though the sin effects you in some way, and you forgive the person, that has no bearing on the fact that the same sin is against God, and must be forgiven by Him through Christ in order for said sin not to exist any more. God does not forgive sin to help you out necessarily, the sin is forgiven to satisfy the transgression against God's perfect righteous nature. So you see, what someone does against us is also against God, and whether we forgive them or not does not effect their standing with God necessarily, and when or if God forgives them does not effect us necessarily. Before we go to the alter ( that is come before God) to ask forgiveness, God wants us to go to the one who we feel like transgressed against us, and forgive them. Then we can go before God with a clear heart and ask God's forgiveness through Christ. As for the rest of what you said, I have only this to add, Martin Luther lived by faith in Jesus Christ.
PS: I can not offer you any secular documentation about Jesus, but would add this, if the Church at the time of the writing of the NT wanted only to control the people, don't you think it stands to reason, that the Church would have found someone outside the Church to write about Him, money talks you know.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 27, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Cinjin - April 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Tobie - April 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Cinjin - April 27, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 28, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 28, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Paul the Human - April 27, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Paul the Human - April 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - April 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 27, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Can God love? - by mediamogul - April 27, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Can God love? - by simplexity - April 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Can God love? - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Can God love? - by Faith No More - April 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Faith No More - April 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - April 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Norfolk And Chance - April 29, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - April 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Norfolk And Chance - April 29, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 1, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - April 30, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - April 30, 2012 at 7:18 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 1, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - May 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 2, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 3, 2012 at 8:10 am
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 3, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: Can God love? - by MysticKnight - May 3, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: Can God love? - by genkaus - May 3, 2012 at 5:37 am
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Can God love? - by genkaus - May 3, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 3, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 4, 2012 at 4:11 am
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 4, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 4, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 5, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Can God love? - by KichigaiNeko - May 3, 2012 at 6:55 am
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm
RE: Can God love? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 8, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - May 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Engel - May 3, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Angrboda - May 3, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Welsh cake - May 5, 2012 at 3:36 am
RE: Can God love? - by jess_essential - May 7, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Undeceived - May 7, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 8, 2012 at 2:56 am
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 8, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 8, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Greatest I am - May 9, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Can God love? - by Godschild - May 9, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Minimalist - May 8, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can God love? - by Anomalocaris - May 8, 2012 at 7:47 pm

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