(May 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It would be tradition you are appealing to here, not scripture. So we've finally reached the crux of the matter. When it comes to light that scripture may not provide a rock solid justification for your bigotry you appeal to the bigotry of others down through the ages?
Bravo.
(if, btw, you aren't limited to scripture, than what's to prevent some asshat from simply making shit up? You know, shit like "god hates fags"? Let's say the original authors of these texts took the same approach. They aren't limited only to gods word, they can include tradition, which, at that point, would be pagan. Well well, things are starting to take shape aren't they?)
I still don't accept your interpretation of scripture, they are not punished, God gives them up to these desires, desires which they have already. The passage is saying that when you refuse to acknowledge God you become overcome by evil desires and practices which it describes.
So your interpretation is wrong even if I only accepted scripture alone.
As for someone making shit up, that's why the Church has councils to determine teaching, so no individual can simply "make shit up" that's exactly why protestant sects are in error, because they broke from the Church and went and "made shit up"