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Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From?
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RE: Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From?
(May 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: How do you reconcile Christ's statement that He and the Father are one, and that the Holy Spirit knows the mind of God. Seems that without being God the Holy Spirit could not know the mind of God.
ALTER2EGO -to- GODSCHILD:
Present the verse of scripture where Jesus says he and the Father are one, and I will explain it to you by means of other scriptures in the Bible.

The holy spirit is an extension of Jehovah's power aka his active force. He owns it. It comes from him. Anytime you see the scriptures referring to the holy spirit as "his" or "him" or "the mind of the spirit" ask yourself: "Who owns the holy spirit?" The answer will always be Jehovah. Therefore the "mind of the holy spirit" is an indirect way of saying "the mind of God." The holy spirit is given the masculine gender "his" and "him" because it belongs to our Heavenly Father who has the masculine gender.


(May 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: Also Genesis 1 and John 1 establish that all three were present at the creation, so yes scripture does teach the Trinity.
ALTER2EGO -to- GODSCHILD:
Do present me with the exact quotation from Genesis 1 and John 1, and I will explain it to you by means of the scriptures. Be sure and give the chapter and verse from where you're quoting.


(May 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: In Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like Us, God was not talking to the angels, this is a reference to the Trinity.
ALTER2EGO -to- GODSCHILD:
At Genesis 3:22, Jehovah was talking to his most powerful angelic son, the pre-human Jesus who assisted him in creating all other things.


"{15} He is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION; {16} because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. {17} Also, he is before all other things and by means of him all other things were made to exist." (Colossians 1:15-17)


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RE: Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From? - by Phil - May 24, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Where Did the Trinity Teaching Come From? - by Alter2Ego - May 24, 2012 at 2:29 pm

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