(June 3, 2012 at 2:57 am)Undeceived Wrote:(June 3, 2012 at 1:02 am)aleialoura Wrote: It's a long and tedious process, inventing a deity.
And you would know?
Yes, actually. My children and I do an exercise in which we make up deities. It's easy to see how yours was invented when you do such things. All it takes is some imagination, and unlike the inventors of jesus, my kids and I don't plagiarize what we're not creative enough to come up with ourselves.
Quote:I suppose that's what everyone wants: to figure out how Christianity came about without a trace of foul play, and with answers to every arisen question.
We've already figured that out, first of all. Why wouldn't sane people want answers to every arisen question? DUH.
Quote:Believers multiplied by the thousands within ten years of the man Jesus' death, and we're wondering how a scam could happen so fast.
That's not true at all. Christianity didn't gain momentum at all until around 400 B.C.
I know how it spread quickly. Check out my signature. Hypatia was just one example, not only to the people living during her time, but to modern folks of what happened to people who didn't worship jesus.
You wonder how/why it spread? People didn't want to be mutilated and killed. Once again, DUH.
Quote:Holy Communion appears in early 2nd century books, and we ask, "How does a tradition start without an event to kick it off?"
People made it up.
Quote:Jesus had to die, but how was his resurrection faked? And who would care if he 'resurrected' unless he was also an influential man? Why would they name him the Messiah unless the title came from his own lips?
All stupid questions unless you can prove that he ever existed in the first place. Can you? Didn't think so.
Quote:How did Jesus (or his writers) manage to fulfill 300+ old testament prophecies, proven by the Dead Sea Scrolls to have been written prior?
Prove it.
Quote:How does one add to the Bible without the express consent of every church in the area, and have it copied by hundreds of dedicated scribes?
Oh, I dunno... Someone said to do it or off with their heads?
Quote:Why were there martyrs unless Christians were so convinced as to override their human duty to self-preservation?
There are just as many, if not more martyrs who were so convinced by the Qur'an that they did the exact same thing... and who knows what else.
So... what's your point?
Quote:Why does the Bible include imperfect people? Why are historically "unreliable" women used as witnesses to the self-proclaimed greatest event in the Bible? How did the idea of salvation by grace originate, when it does not exist in any other religion or philosophy?
Why don't you make up some answers to those inane questions? That would be acceptable amongst your kind, obviously.
Quote:Why is there no positive evidence against the legitimacy of the Bible, such as third-party written charges of fraud or competing manuscripts?
Why is there no evidence for the legitimacy of the bible. The content itself is the evidence against it.
And who knows what was in the Library of Alexandria, which was destroyed by heathen atheists... oh, wait, nope... that was the christians. My bad.
Quote:Maybe everyone was just more gullible back then, and the writers were geniuses.
People were just as gullible now as they were back then, obviously. The writers were not geniuses, they weren't even really good writers. Have you read that piece of shit? Twilight is a quality piece of lit compared to that disaster.
Quote:Or maybe we are overstepping logic when we accuse people 2000 years closer to a historical event of being wrong about that historical event.
Oh, let's not overstep logic now!
If you're going to use that kind of logic about jesus, then you have to be willing to accept that those who wrote about the birth of Siddhartha Gautama close to the time that it happened were right to say that Maya was carried away by four devas to a lake, bathed, anointed, and inseminated by a white elephant with a lotus flower.
They wrote that it was the buddha who came to earth and inseminated his own mother with himself. They were closer to the time it happened, so they must be right... using your own logic, of course.
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