RE: Deism for non-believers
June 10, 2012 at 10:14 am
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2012 at 10:26 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Your "plausible god" that is a creator is an equally material claim with absolutely no evidence as well, so wouldn't it also be a "false claim" by your own metrics?
Let me be clear, there is no 80 foot bird that we know of, just as there are no actual gods that we know of...but there are birds.........fewer unjustified assertions.
Your'e asking me to believe in something for which we have have no evidence, invoking a creature for which we have no evidence, to explain an event for which there is no evidence.
I'm asking you to believe in something for which we have no evidence, invoking a larger version of a creature for which we have evidence -but I could have just invoked a normal bird couldn't I?- ,to explain an event for which there is no evidence.
If this god has to be a god that doesn't intervene then it would preclude a creator god, which had to intervene for our universe to go from "not there" to "there". This is going on the assumption that god was necessary. If we drop that assumptiuon and state that perhaps the universe could have arose by other means but that in this specific instance goddidit we would be at a loss to determine the difference between a universe "by other means" and a universe "goddidit", making it an un-falsifiable proposition (in addition to being an argument for which you are unable to assign any measure of truth to, while still being less plausible than my bird- which for some reason you think is rubbish even though this "plausible god" has escaped that axe.....all the while contradicting your insistence for a god that does not intervene).
Let me be clear, there is no 80 foot bird that we know of, just as there are no actual gods that we know of...but there are birds.........fewer unjustified assertions.
Your'e asking me to believe in something for which we have have no evidence, invoking a creature for which we have no evidence, to explain an event for which there is no evidence.
I'm asking you to believe in something for which we have no evidence, invoking a larger version of a creature for which we have evidence -but I could have just invoked a normal bird couldn't I?- ,to explain an event for which there is no evidence.
If this god has to be a god that doesn't intervene then it would preclude a creator god, which had to intervene for our universe to go from "not there" to "there". This is going on the assumption that god was necessary. If we drop that assumptiuon and state that perhaps the universe could have arose by other means but that in this specific instance goddidit we would be at a loss to determine the difference between a universe "by other means" and a universe "goddidit", making it an un-falsifiable proposition (in addition to being an argument for which you are unable to assign any measure of truth to, while still being less plausible than my bird- which for some reason you think is rubbish even though this "plausible god" has escaped that axe.....all the while contradicting your insistence for a god that does not intervene).
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