RE: Deism for non-believers
June 10, 2012 at 6:47 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2012 at 6:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Whether or not a conscious agent is required and whether or not a conscious agent was involved are entirely different propositions. If a malicious or inept god created anything that wouldn't have much bearing on whether or not it was a god (or whether or not such a god were plausible). That's the rub, you can give these folks 99% of what they want even if only in the theoretical and they still cant make it work. That probably has something to do with the god proposition being absolutely and completely bankrupt of any redeeming, valuable, explanatory, or practical quality.
As far as creation being contradictory to reality, we don't know what happened that particular moment (or even if there was such a moment to begin with), we just don't know. We know that it didn't involve Balthazar Whoever waving his hand but that doesn't preclude some other explanation that would also easily be categorized as creation. Nevertheless, in the absence of any evidence confirming the creation hypothesis (and specifically in this instance the creation- by- a -god hypothesis), or negating the null hypothesis, it is fairly safe to say that as far as we know, this particular creative act didn't happen regardless of whether or not it is contradictory with reality.
As far as creation being contradictory to reality, we don't know what happened that particular moment (or even if there was such a moment to begin with), we just don't know. We know that it didn't involve Balthazar Whoever waving his hand but that doesn't preclude some other explanation that would also easily be categorized as creation. Nevertheless, in the absence of any evidence confirming the creation hypothesis (and specifically in this instance the creation- by- a -god hypothesis), or negating the null hypothesis, it is fairly safe to say that as far as we know, this particular creative act didn't happen regardless of whether or not it is contradictory with reality.
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