RE: Deism for non-believers
June 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2012 at 2:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 12, 2012 at 12:13 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I rule out intervention because I simply haven't seen it happen. Everything in the natural world seems to be in its place all the time.
Have you witnessed any cosmos creation recently? Why have you ruled out intervention but ruled in creation, they would seem to fall under the same axe, to me.
Quote:I take it you don't agree with why I see creation as not intervention? I don't think you've exactly given me your thoughts on my explanation.
Actually yes, I have. Before creation there was nothing, after there was something, we proposes this as an act of a god, therefore it intervened in the continued state of nothingness.
Quote:I think it does need the creator attribute, otherwise what would we be arguing for? The scale would be completely disconnected in every way to reality as creation is the one tangible thing between reality and an ideal god. Maybe for the scale to work we need to assume these gods are something seperate from mere objects like cake. Also, a cake has design. Not just any design, but a design by us. So it can't be that it gave rise to what designed it if it's the creator of the universe.
Aren't we arguing about a scale which is completely disconnected in every way to reality? I do recall you mentioning a few posts back that this was precisely the trouble with the scale as it applied to compelling someone to believe in a plausible god.
Quote:But what makes you say they are parallel? You are assuming they won't ever intersect somewhere along infinity. Or have you checked?
No assumption is required, you can see the totality of both lines, and they do not intersect. I don't need to check into infinity because they are not infinitely long. A line of known length, and an infinitely long line are vastly different things (yuk yuk yuk). Parallel lines need not be infinitely long even if there were (at least in concept) infinitely long parallel lines.
Quote:Blocky pixels definitely cannot make a circle. You'd get a way better approximation by drawing it by hand. Even then it's a crude approximation to a concept that can't be shown in reality (yes, I agree with you. Concepts aren't visible).
You gotta problem with pixels? LOL.. just givin you shit bud.
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