(June 17, 2012 at 10:00 pm)Drich Wrote:
The Goal here is an all encompassing love for God. Not the empty motions of it.
cato123 Wrote:Why are you incapable of answering the fucking question? Not just in this thread, but every thread.
Everything you spouted in your answer to this OP was well understood and the exact premise of the OP. Do you get it? A premise, not an answer.
You went on about the fact that one sin is equivalent to all sin, but left out the bit about original sin. We don't have to do shit and we are all guilty of all sin. But, this wasn't the question.
Since we are all sinners, we are guilty of all sin. Only our love for god allows us to do good works. This means as long as I believe that a 2000 year old sacrifice absolves me of any personal responsibility I will be forgiven and get to join the country club. I can do whatever the fuck I want, may not be fitting for someone that loves god, but will not prevent me from going to heaven as long as I believe.
Do you get it yet?
You sir are the one incapable, you are incapable of understanding the most important thing Drich said above. It's the part I left not hidden.
If you were to do the things you stated above you would not have a love for God, those who do not love God will not be in heaven. This is stated throughout the NT, I will not quote verses, go read the NT and see for yourself, if that's possible, all the different passages about loving God. Then maybe you will get it.
I'm a Southern Baptist and we believe one can not lose their salvation, however, I believe you can give it up, and you can do that in the manner you described above.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
