(June 18, 2012 at 1:14 am)cato123 Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='300644' dateline='1339984832']
That means we take 'good works' off of the table in biblical Christianity as a means to 'earn or deserve' Heaven. So why do we do good works and avoid sin? The answer is a simple one. Because we love God, and God hates sin. If we loved God to the degree required in scripture, then why would we seek to be outside of his will? If a man truly loves his wife does he seek every oppertunity he can get to cheat on her? No. Love dictates that we live for the other, and not for ourselves.
The Goal here is an all encompassing love for God. Not the empty motions of it.
Quote:Why are you incapable of answering the fucking question? Not just in this thread, but every thread.Because the questions most of you asked are based on an incorrect paradyme. Let me ask you this. Who is most likely to have a better understanding of Christianity. The Christian or the one who professes there is no God?
Quote:Everything you spouted in your answer to this OP was well understood and the exact premise of the OP. Do you get it? A premise, not an answer.If one understands the 'premise' he can come to his own answer. Christ taught this way. That is why He spoke/taught in parables.
Quote:You went on about the fact that one sin is equivalent to all sin, but left out the bit about original sin.Because I teach directly from scripture and not a specific doctrine. Orginal sin' is a doctrine or understanding inderectly contrived from the bible but is not taught by the bible directly.
Quote:We don't have to do shit and we are all guilty of all sin. But, this wasn't the question.noope. We are told in the bible good works mean nothing. (I know the pope has other ideas, but we/Christians do not worship the pope we worship the God of the bible so we must yeild to the bible and not the pope.
Since we are all sinners, we are guilty of all sin. Only our love for god allows us to do good works.
Quote: This means as long as I believe that a 2000 year old sacrifice absolves me of any personal responsibility I will be forgiven and get to join the country club. I can do whatever the fuck I want, may not be fitting for someone that loves god, but will not prevent me from going to heaven as long as I believe.Noope again. For we are told (This time by Christ himself in mt 7) not all who believe are saved.
Quote:Do you get it yet?Oh I do, the question is do you? Do you get that a 'death bed confession' requires more than a confession from your death bed? Do you get Christ is not fooled by the lip service of a professed believer. That belief in of itself is not, what is being required from you.. That true belief is made manifest in Love..