(June 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Drich Wrote: Because OT Jews were given only apart of the law concerning physical sin.
So your god hands down incomplete laws? What's up with that?
Quote:The Law was not "complete" Till Jesus' sermon in Mat 5. After this sermon The law was expanded to matters of the Heart. Anger, lust, envy, superiority complexes/gossip, and the like.
So when Jesus says something it's law? Then let me ask you this, have you sold everything you own and given the money to the poor as Jesus commands in Luke 12:33? If not, why not?
Quote:Did you speak to God?
Many times. He never spoke back.
Quote:Did God make Himself known to you?
Nope.
Quote:Again even in your analogy, if you can not see 'women' then you are not in the right place.
If your understanding of God is an unresponsive box then you simply showed up in the wrong place.
How could I possibly be in "the wrong place" when this deity is supposedly everywhere?
Quote:Why? so you do not have to seek attonement?
I need "attonement" for getting angry? For gossiping? For wanting more for myself? Not buying it.
Quote: The good news is that sin is not the end of this equasion and does not have to condemn anyone to Hell.
Great! So being a serial child molester/rapist/murderer means you can still get into eternal paradise! SWEET!
Quote:So there's no point in doing good deeds.
Quote:As a way of earning the right to goto Heaven, no. None what so ever.
Then your deity sets the bar incredibly low for entry into paradise.
Q: Do you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Yes.
CONGRATULATIONS! You're in!
Quote:Good deeds become currency once one is accepted into heaven. Good deeds do not have any value as a way to buy yourself into heaven.
"I'd like an ice cream sundae, please."
"That will be two times you gave blood and that time you helped your neighbor paint her porch."
Quote:Well, he's never done a damned thing for me.
Quote:Dying for your sins so you may have a choice as to where you want to spend eternity is a pretty big deal.
Yeah, like THAT really happened....
Quote:Gossiping is just as severe as raping and murdering a child. If that's the case, your god is retarded.
Quote:Severe as in deserves eternal seperation from God, yes.
And you just proved my point.
Quote:In otherwords if their is a Creator God of the Universe as the bible describes. He is oblidged to do magic tricks for you so you will have cause to believe in Him???
Who's asking for "magic tricks"? How about simply appearing to me and letting me know he exists? Is that too much for this deity to handle?
Quote:How can you say you were seeking anything if you have nothing to show for your efforts?
UIhhhh.... because the thing I was seeking doesn't exist.
Quote:You have nothing to show for a 20 year effort, so unless you were seeking nothing, then you have some more seeking to do.
I have no doubt I could spend the next 50 years seeking your deity and I'd still come up empty.
Quote:It is not on Christians or Christianity to Proove the existance of God.
It is if you want to come here and tell us your god is real.
Quote:If you want proof, then ask seek and knock for it yourself just like everyone else who has received proof.
You've received proof? Great! What is it? Because you'd be the first one here to ever provide it.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?