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Scientific Evidence That God is Real
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RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real



There can be no demonstrative argument to prove that those instances in which we have no experience, resemble those of which we have had experience.
— David Hume

Victor Stenger Wrote:In his 1995 book, The Creator and the Cosmos, physicist Hugh Ross listed thirty-three characteristics a planet must have to support life. He also estimated the probability that such a combination be found in the universe as "much less than one in a million trillion." He concluded that only "divine design" could account for human life.

However, Ross presented no estimate of the probability for divine design. Perhaps it is even lower! Ross and others who attempt to prove the existence of God on the basis of probabilities make a fundamental logical error. When using probabilities to decide between two or more possibilities, you must have a number for each possibility in order to compare. In this vast universe, highly unlikely events happen every day.



Of course, one might wonder why a perfect God would build a universe that was so delicately balanced. If he really designed it for life, you would think he could have made it a lot easier for life to evolve.



Theists who argue that the universe is fine-tuned to earthly life have the burden of proving that no other form of life is possible, not just on other planets in our universe but in every conceivable universe that has different physical parameters. They have provided no such proof and it would seem that such a proof is impossible.

In fact, the whole argument from fine-tuning ultimately makes no sense. As my friend Martin Wagner notes, all physical parameters are irrelevant to an omnipotent God. "He could have created us to live in hard vacuum if he wanted."
— Victor Stenger, God: The Failed Hypothesis

I can't find the relevant quote, but he remarks how Theists who push the fine-tuning argument often push mutually conflicting arguments. The universe is fine tuned for life, but if that were really true, why are so many environments completely hostile to life. If the universe were truly fine tuned for life, it would be under every rock, crevice and mound. And why is so much of the universe, ostensibly, absent intelligent life. If God is an engineer, he's a terribly wasteful one, creating a universe this size, only to fill one planet with life. Like, God, wtf?


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Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Gbarian - June 20, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Annik - June 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Tempus - June 20, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by jackman - June 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by toro - June 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Minimalist - June 20, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Darwinian - June 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Ace Otana - June 21, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Cato - June 21, 2012 at 2:39 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by LastPoet - June 21, 2012 at 2:42 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Angrboda - June 21, 2012 at 3:08 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Kayenneh - June 21, 2012 at 3:20 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Ace Otana - June 21, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Cyberman - June 21, 2012 at 8:05 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by Minimalist - June 21, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by bryandd - June 22, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Scientific Evidence That God is Real - by LEDO - June 25, 2012 at 9:12 pm

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