(June 21, 2012 at 10:04 am)Ace Otana Wrote: How can I deny something I genuinely don't believe exists? Besides if the promise is heaven then I'll pass. Remember, I don't want to go to some afterlife.Which is exactly why God has hidden Himself from you. Because if you were staring down the barrel of eternity with Heaven on one side and the eternal pit of hell on the other this choice would not be possiable. It your actions/choice would be a matter of self preservation and not a reflection of whether or not you wanted to be with God.
Quote:Really? I've had religion in my face from an early age. Listened to preachers, even joined a boy's brigade. I've given it careful thought and genuinely looked into personal feelings, and after all that I'm STILL an atheist. Just because you're easily convinced doesn't mean I am. So far I've seen insufficient reason to believe in any of it.If you did If you knew without doubt god existed could you have made your same choice about spending an eternity with God in Heaven?
Remember, it's the claim I'm challenging, not god. Seeing as I don't believe god even exists.
Quote:Some atheists were once strong believers and for many years. They notice how much of a lie it is and walk away.There are many lies in religion. what most people do not understand is God is just as much against 'religion' as most atheists. Religion and God are two very different things.
Quote:Just because people don't believe in the same stuff you do does not mean they're ignorant or just don't understand.without doubt I know this, that is why I do not thump people with my bible. Everything I do or say to any of you is based off of your own questions. I am not here to force change on anyone. just to facilitate it when and where it is wanted.