No need to avoid sinning, all is forgiven?

[Thor]

Appearently not. After 20 years in Christianity you do not know the difference between OT judaism and NT Christianity.

No, I think I pretty much nailed it.

Same God Same wrath,

Not at all. When has this deity flooded the planet, turned people to salt, sent armies to kill people or killed first born sons in the last 2,000 years?

the difference is attonement.

And people weren't entitled to attonement prior to Jesus?

This is what the blood of Christ has bought you.

Hasn't bought me anything. And what about the people who died prior to Jesus? They're just screwed? (BTW, there is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus was a real person).

The freedom to live a life in rebellion.

You sound like the Burgermeister Meisterburger when he called Kris Kringle a "rebel".

No, I am just a Steward. I will and have given back anything the Lord asks.

You have no possessions whatsoever? I find that hard to believe. And when did this "Lord" ever ask you to do anything?

again no, the Company God has me looking after owns several Computers.

Oh, so you post your responses from work. Is your boss aware of this? And "God" has you looking after a company? He hired you? What was that interview process like?

Because God has told us what to say inorder to gardner a response. If you did not say these things then you are right it makes no difference.

Why do we need to say something specific? That's kind of asinine. So, if someone was never educated in what specifically needs to be said, this deity will ignore you?

6 year old Billy: Hello, God? Please take away my cancer. It hurts a lot and I want to play with my friends again.

God: What's that? You didn't phrase it right! Place this kid on "ignore"!

This deity won't respond if you ask from a position of pride.

Since we are now in the business of 'fixing' each others statements.

You hardly "fixed" my statement. Mine was accurate as it stood, unlike yours.

Why should I have to make myself known?

Because you have been told to.

Where? By who?

(after 20 years in the church surely someone has told you what God expects from you.)

Uhhhhh... people claim to have told me what this deity wants. Nowhere have I ever actually heard anything from this deity himself.

The right of disbelief is the sole purpose of this life.

This makes no sense. The entire purpose of our life is so that this deity can find out whether or not we'll believe in him? But, if he's omnipotent, he will know before we're born whether or not we'll believe. So what's the point in seeing if someone will believe when you already know the answer?

Why would He give life to allow disbelief, just to force belief in the long run?

Giving me credible evidence that he does, indeed exist is hardly "forcing belief".

How can you say that you search for God and never once in 20 year open your bible and read it?

Oh, I opened the Babble and read it. It was one of the things that convinced me this god of yours is bullshit.

I can only imagine walking around the streets of heaven and you see the guy who tortured and murdered you enjoying himself. My reaction would be, "What THE FUCK is HE doing here?!?!? Are you SHITTING ME?!?!?"

There is a parable that speaks to this if you wish to read it.

Don't need to read a parable. Because the whole scenario is nonsensical.

This is pretty much what you admitted to when you said that Jeffrey Dahmer could be in heaven.

Actually I din't say what Jeffery said. I said if His Heart reflects his words He will have found forgiveness for His sins. Salvation is a matter of the Heart not a verbal delicration.

You said Jeffrey Dahmer could be in heaven. That's my point.

Who said he has to appear personally?

You did.

And I said he could send one of his minions.

Uhhh.... none of those people are omnipotent.

So?

If you're so obtuse as to not get my point here, I'm not going to explain it.

What makes your path the right one?

Because none of the others offer to put you before the God of the bible in attoned righteousness.

Oh, so you fell for the sales pitch!

If He didn't 'skeptics' would not exist. Therefore elimating 'free will.'

Baloney. This deity could certainly let us know he exists and then leave it up to us whether or not we want to follow him.