Absolute Truth

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"There is a god": Prove it..

"Nothing comes from nothing" : Who/what made God? To claim God is the exception is a logical fallacy called 'special pleading'

Empiricism commits the fallacy of special pleading.

If all knowledge were obtained by observation than how could we empirically verify by it's own standard that the statement was true? It self refutes.

Even if that weren't the most ridiculous piece of horseshit ever dropped in a public forum, your assertion of a sky fairy that came from nothing is STILL a Special Pleading Fallacy. Padriac's argument stands.

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@Chuck
I personally don't have a good written definition for what truth is, or at least a definition that doesn't use some derivative of the word truth.

My father would say that truth is whatever God says.

And I know my father is a brilliant debater because I've watched him debate people on other topics. Nowhere did I say that he was simply a brilliant religious debater. One can debate well and still be wrong about religion.

I'm sorry. "truth is whatever my sky fairy says" and "brilliant debater" are mutually exclusive.

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This would be the same god that told Adam & Eve they would die on the day they ate from that infamous tree?

Your lying God did not say that....

Good that you admit the deceitful nature of your sky fairy. It can only be yours: we don't have one.

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You're right.

And your father seemed to want to provoke some thought, which he has.

Great. So it's a Good Thing if I go run nekkid through the town square; it "provokes thought".

Saying that there is no absolute truth refutes itself.

Not any more than claiming that there is absolute truth does. However, "There is absolute truth" is an extraordinary positive claim, requiring extraordinary evidence. Of which you have none. All you have is an assertion. We point out that your positive claim is a bald and unsupported assertion, and advise that you back it up or GTFO.

Its called relativism.

I love the way asshole armchair philosophers try to pigeonhole everyone who refutes their bullshit assertions with a silly-sounding word, and think that tacking a label on the refutation somehow dismisses them.

If that statement were true it would prove itself false. It self refutes.

Even if it did -- which it doesn't -- it is still a straw man.

Premise 1) Thruth does exist
Premise 2) Truth is not absolute
Conclusion:
Truth is relative

Although the chain of reasoning is correct, the second premise is false.

Even if this were our argument, your claim that the second premise is false is mere bald and unsupported assertion. Just like your claim of the existence of a great sky fairy or of unicorns or any other mythical creatures, yours is the positive claim and the burden of proof is on you.

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