(June 27, 2012 at 10:13 am)Thor Wrote: Actually, I'd be satisfied if they outed the criminals and turned them over to the proper authorities for punishment. Instead, they covered up the abuse and shipped the scumbag to a new parish where he could have access to a fresh batch of children!
Individual bishops did this, the Vatican never did. The Vatican isn't in charge of parish assignments anyway, nor does this post have anything to to do with the article in the OP.
(June 27, 2012 at 11:08 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Are they turning priests who have sex with kids below the age of consent over to the police?
Yes.
(June 27, 2012 at 12:01 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: This is sick, absolutely sick. Crimes should be weighted by the damage they do. The sexual abuse of a child causes horrible mind scarring (and some physical scarring) I've known many adults who were raped as a child.
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Now let's weigh the negative consequences of being ministered by a female or having a female as (some sort of) overseer in the church......I hear crickets chirping....can anyone think of the emotional and physical scars that can come with this?
Wtf?
So what are you complaining about? Do you think pedophiles should be given a harsher punishment? Because legally speaking, the Church is already giving them the maximum possible. No one is denying that being raped is a scarring thing. Don't lecture me on that.
OR are you complaining about women's ordination having too harsh of a punishment? Do you think bishops who ordain women should be shown more leniency?
There are a lot of offenses which receive the maximum possible penalty in the Church. Its weird how you cherry pick these two and then proceed to complain on how "sick" it is, but you give no justification for the sickness other than "raping kids really hurts people" (naturally, which is why it receives the maximum penalty). The only thing left is that you are complaining that bishops who ordain women should get off easily, but of course Holy Orders is a Sacrament, and any abuse of it should be met again, with the harshest punishment.
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