@Ziploc, you said the Vatican was making light of child abuse, in spite of giving it the maximum penalty. Correct?
Your first link is about the Pope's brother being aware of corporal punishment back in the day, it also briefly makes a butchered quote from Crimen sollicitationis which was in reference to ecclesiastical trials only, which do not preclude criminal trials.
The second of your links is just about a Bishop being under suspicion, not the Vatican.
There is no cop outs here, this is just you posting a handful of poorly researched articles and me just stating a few pretty simple facts. Repeating a lie a lot of times doesn't make it the truth.
(June 28, 2012 at 12:53 am)Epimethean Wrote: Ah, yes, of course, cop out du jour. Since all you have to cling to is heresay (faith) and myth, I should think you would be more sympathetic to the accusations of victims.What? This isn't even an accusation from a victim, its a baseless accusation from a politician which you tried to post as proof.
Your first link is about the Pope's brother being aware of corporal punishment back in the day, it also briefly makes a butchered quote from Crimen sollicitationis which was in reference to ecclesiastical trials only, which do not preclude criminal trials.
The second of your links is just about a Bishop being under suspicion, not the Vatican.
There is no cop outs here, this is just you posting a handful of poorly researched articles and me just stating a few pretty simple facts. Repeating a lie a lot of times doesn't make it the truth.

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