RE: The debate is over
June 30, 2012 at 5:08 am
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2012 at 5:13 am by Creed of Heresy.)
(June 30, 2012 at 4:49 am)Micah Wrote: Not all things that cannot be disproved are on the same level. Fairies and the Christian god are not on the same level. I know you didn't reference fairies; I was just using them as an example. The person Jesus almost certainly existed. We find out about him not only in Christian texts, but also non-Christian texts. For instance, the writings of Tacitus and Josephus.
You mean, "We find out about him only in Christian texts, and he is mentioned as an afterthought by Josephus, and Tacitus also briefly mentions followers of 'Christus' but never mentions the man himself, and is referring not to the disciples but of people who were the earliest believers, even though there are 40 other historians of the time and geographic location who never make a peep about him."
So no. He did not almost certainly exist. The existence of Jesus is, too, ridiculously vague and based on extremely minimalistic amounts of evidence and testimony from men who wrote all their information supposedly six decades later...in a time where the average life expectancy was about four to five decades.
I call bullshit.
Do I believe there was a prophetic figure of some kind? One who attracted a large following? Yes. Is that evidence for anything else regarding the accounts? No. The history books are riddled with self-proclaimed prophets who achieved large followings, and to this very day they STILL pop up! Scientology, anyone?? Just because a claim is made and there are verified reports of existence does NOT make the claims true beyond naming that Prophet X existed in some way, and it certainly doesn't make Prophet X's suppose supernatural workings real, either.
