(June 30, 2012 at 6:49 am)Micah Wrote: Norfolk and Chance,
But Mark's gospel MIGHT be evidence for Jesus' divinity. I am not saying that it is; I am only saying that it COULD be. I don't see how anyone could disagree with this.
Does it prove that jesus was the son of god? No.
Quote:Likewise, if the universe was created, then the universe would need a creator. Both these statements include the word "if." You are not one-hundred percent sure about your claim, which means you really don't have a choice but to admit the possibility of the second claim. If you are ninety-nine percent sure that the universe was not created, then that one percent would be filled by it being created. Therefore, the creation of the universe is possible. That is all that I am trying to do. Point out that it is possible, which it is.
I do not need to consider the possibility that god created the universe, because I do not know that god is real.
Because I can already consider that the universe, which I know is real, could have just came from nothing, I can conclude (rightly or wrongly) that it doesn't need a god.
And of course, for me to even begin to consider the possibility that god could have created the universe, first of all you need to prove that there is a god to even consider.
Bring forth proof that god is real, then we can sit around and discuss whether it is possible he could have created the universe.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.