(July 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(July 3, 2012 at 9:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If God exists, then it's up to him to make himself known (if he wants to be known).
If a believer believes he exists, then he shouldn't have to carry the burden of proving God, rather it's up to God to prove himself.
True enough, if you're referring to convincing yourself.
If you want to convince others, then indeed, the burden of proof is on you.
True, and the same can be said about "free-will". I don't think there is an argument to prove free-will, but I believe in free-will, and I believe I know free-will exists.
It's the same with morality being real/objective and not a delusion.
I believe there is strong arguments for God, but the end, every argument is making use of intuition, which some people can disagree on.
For example, from nothing, nothing follows. Or that things need an explanation except for the Necessary being by virtue of being necessary. Or what defines original reality needing to be simple/indivisible.
At the end, there is no knock out argument either way. And I don't think there ever will be. Some people don't believe in free-will. I don't know how to convince those people at all and can only advise them to reflect if they truly know or don't, because I feel I do know we have free-will.
