A good case against God

[downbeatplumb]

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I do not believe that there are extraterrestrials, although I think it is likely because we have the example of ourselves.

However to establish a belief position on the subject I would want proof.

I like to have evidence for what I believe.

Saying that you do not believe that there are extraterrestrials but you think it is likely that there are extraterrestrials seems like a contradiction to me. What I imagine you are is agnostic about the existence of extraterrestrials. If so, we seem to have have proof that you do not consider something to be false simply because there is no evidence for it, as you do not consider the existence of extraterrestrials false though you have no evidence for their existence.

But there is a certain amount of evidence that points to the existence of life on other worlds.
The fact that there is life on this one.

Theists seem to work in the reverse direction when it comes to their impossible delusion.

Their stance is "I will believe in this stupid unprovable thing until some one proves definitively that the great pumpkin will never visit the pumpkin patch"

You are asserting that God is a stupid idea. By your own standard of only believing things that you have evidence for, you ought to present your evidence for this claim… and this is the reason that I created this thread, for such evidence to be presented. Also, the experience of God can be evidence for his existence for one who experiences Him even if one has no argument for God. (not that I am granting the latter)

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So a vague feeling of something can be evidence for it.

How about voices in the head.

Googling "god told me to kill" gets 46000000 hits.

Define "god"

How about the uncreated creator of the universe…or the all powerful creator of the universe, or the omnipotent omniscient creator of the universe?

How does that work then?
uncreated creator! what a fucking joke.
"Everything needs a beginning ....oh except"