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Faith Through Fear
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RE: Faith Through Fear
(July 5, 2012 at 2:33 am)Godschild Wrote:
(July 4, 2012 at 9:41 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Or dumb, I've never met someone who could hear written words.
I'm not quoting scripture, I'm quoting you. You said you couldn't change your date of death because it was pre-ordained by God, now you're telling me you can shorten your life. Which is it you believe?

You put crosses in every church and every place you can then kneel and pray before them. Thats the definition of idolatry.
Also, this has already been said but its worth saying again, the cross was a device used to crucify people. Its sole purpose was to slowly kill people in the most painful way possible. The fact your Messiah was nailed to it should kind of drive this point home but then your melon like head is nothing if not impenetrable to information.
And no, the fact he supposedly forgave our sins nailed to it *still* doesn't make it a symbol of love in the same way that because Hitler gave some of his speeches on a balcony it doesn't make balconies a symbol of hate. Words uttered while placed on either do not for one second change their primary functions.

You are a hopeless , you think like a child, I'm not arguing with someone who doesn't know up from down or left from right.

No, thinking like a child is what the church did when Galileo told the truth about the nature of the sun and earth.

Thinking like a child is what you are doing. Wanting ANY god to be real is not the same as having evidence of such.

1.A history of tradition is not evidence, otherwise 3,000 years of believing the sun was a god, would make the sun a god.

2.Popularity of a claim also does not make a god real, otherwise by proxy of numbers we should all be Muslims because they have the most numbers.

You merely, like every human in our species evolution, are merely projecting your own personal desires on the world around you. Children believe in Santa, adults believe in Santa for adults.

The wise give up on bad claims and move forward. That is what adults do, or should do.

If you want to believe in something that has no evidence, we cannot stop you, but the claim that we are being childish for trying to pull you out of your delusion, is absurd, and you are being the child throwing a tantrum when the adults are merely trying to pull you into reality.

In all seriousness, think about WHY you reject all the other god claims besides yours. When you figure that out, you will understand why we reject yours as well. The only difference between you and I is that I simply reject one more god claim than you do.

I can promise you, you wont burn in a fictional hell, nor is there a fictional heaven to go to . Your life can still have a meaning that you personally give it. You will still have ups and downs throughout your life. But you will be free from the mind bondage of superstition. There is absolutely nothing wrong with accepting reality the way it is.

Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, ect ect, were not around 1 billion years ago, and will not exist after our species goes extinct because there will not be any future generation to sell these myths to. The universe will continue on without any record of us. It may not be sexy, but that is reality.

I still find lots of good even knowing I am finite. I find the size of just our galaxy amazing. I find the power of volcanos amazing. I find my mother's love for me amazing. I find my pet cat amazing. And I find it amazing when my sucky Redskins manage to squeak out a win.

You've been to a movie I am sure. You still did knowing it was finite and would end, and you still enjoyed it knowing it would end. Why does life have to be infinite? I find no value in that claim, much less evidence for such.

The good and bad that happen on this planet and in the universe are not the battle between a bearded man and a man with a pitchfork fighting over the neurons in our heads. The good and bad that happen are a result of nature, nothing more.

It frightens me more that humans make up gods and insist on believing in them in spite of the reality in front of them. Non existent gods do not frighten me, human ignorance does.
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Faith Through Fear - by NoFate - July 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Skepsis - July 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Epimethean - July 1, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Napoléon - July 1, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by FallentoReason - July 1, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Ace Otana - July 2, 2012 at 5:09 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by padraic - July 1, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 1, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Christian - July 1, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Godschild - July 1, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Christian - July 1, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Brian37 - July 2, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Zen Badger - July 2, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Reforged - July 1, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Godschild - July 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Brian37 - July 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Godschild - July 2, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 2, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by FallentoReason - July 2, 2012 at 1:30 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 2, 2012 at 1:38 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by NoFate - July 2, 2012 at 2:07 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Faith No More - July 2, 2012 at 8:29 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by KichigaiNeko - July 2, 2012 at 8:55 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by KichigaiNeko - July 2, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Brian37 - July 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Faith No More - July 2, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Ace Otana - July 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Epimethean - July 2, 2012 at 11:10 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Godschild - July 3, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Brian37 - July 3, 2012 at 7:02 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 3, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Epimethean - July 3, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by NoFate - July 3, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by kılıç_mehmet - July 3, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Brian37 - July 4, 2012 at 7:08 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 3, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Reforged - July 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Godschild - July 4, 2012 at 12:32 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Reforged - July 4, 2012 at 9:41 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Godschild - July 5, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Reforged - July 5, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Brian37 - July 6, 2012 at 6:39 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Cato - July 5, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Minimalist - July 4, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Faith Through Fear - by FallentoReason - July 5, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by Paul the Human - July 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Faith Through Fear - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 6:44 am

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