(July 10, 2012 at 7:34 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(July 10, 2012 at 5:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I myself don't have an issue with other gods existing, gods are just beings that are to be honoured to the extent of worship. That's all they are.
However, logically, Ultimate Existence, cannot lack existence. And if lacks some existence, it would not be Ultimate Life. The same is true of it's qualities. If it lacked some power, some goodness, some compassion, some love, some mercy, it would not be ultimate love, power, compassion.
Whatever it is, all it's qualities that we call are in fact united in a single existence. The reason is, none of them would be ultimate qualities or perfections, were they not one, as they would lack the other qualities.
Now if there was two independent existences, one would lack what's in the other. They both would not be ultimate.
But if we know ultimate being exists, then necessarily he cannot lack existence.
So now you probably are thinking, what about creation? Well, creation then is a dependant existence, it borrows it's existence from God. Thus God lacks no life, the life of other beings is from him giving existence through his own existence. This doesn't mean God loses any existence.
Can there be "lesser" gods...sure why not...why can't creation reach the level of divinity? But the difference with God is that he is Value in itself, while everything else has to earn value.
So if there is gods, they would have struggle to reach that rank.
Perhaps us humans are on a journey towards divinity, perhaps, other creatures are also on that journey.
But I don't think finite creation can ever reach the level of Ultimate, because that has no limit, while creation is finite and limited.
Meaningless rambling and shite that no one is interested in.
Sir I admire your elequence
