Obama and Guantanamo Bay

[goddamnit]

I think the critical issue is the assertion that we would be moving "terrorists" into the United States, as though that valuation has already been determined. Without due process, that cannot be determined, and Shell's original statements are very clear with regard to her opinion about their presumed innocence. The fact may very well be that they are all guilty, but we cannot just assume that's the case without evidence and a proper trial for each individual thereby detained.

I see what you are saying but it leaves me wondering. Historically (although under a decade), we know (from verdicts of former detainees) that there has always been a mix of legally guilty and legally innocent people held there (despite very recently, which we are legally unsure of). Is that not a reasonable basis to induce (not deduce) there are probably detainees who will later be legally guilty terrorists, there now? That is not to say they should be executed, tortured, indefinitely detained, etc. without trial, but couldn't it be a reasonable basis for separating them from Americans before trial, in the same way that suspected murderers are confined before trial?