RE: Coming to a mutual agreement and some rambling.
July 17, 2012 at 9:06 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2012 at 9:07 pm by Mystic.)
Simon Moon...
Here is the thing...
Theists believe they know or at least claim they do.
So doesn't seem dumb to constantly argue over something that you can't prove to them, but rather they must prove to themselves?
There is no rational argument to prove God let alone that we have properly basic knowledge of him.
But equally so, there is no rational argument to prove no human has properly basic knowledge of him.
The problem of evil is a good argument but even Athiests tend to remain agnostic towards a benevolent Creator so obviously it's not knock argument nor is it meant to be. It's rather suppose to challenge the notion of God which it does, and there hasn't been a good rebuttal of it so far.
So given these facts....
Shouldn't it be better not to constantly assert "You don't know God exists" to Theists, when you can't prove it rationally. Even if you knew it was true, just like you don't like Theists saying "You should believe in God" without giving evidence why.
Either way - it seems - rather this is an honest question everyone must come up with.
I say it takes courage to disbelieve in God, because you are now no longer with the assurance of a benevolent Creator whom will perserve youf soul and honor your struggles till the end of time (which will never end, it's just a saying) or take of care all of humanity and possible sentient life, and perserve them.
Here is the thing...
Theists believe they know or at least claim they do.
So doesn't seem dumb to constantly argue over something that you can't prove to them, but rather they must prove to themselves?
There is no rational argument to prove God let alone that we have properly basic knowledge of him.
But equally so, there is no rational argument to prove no human has properly basic knowledge of him.
The problem of evil is a good argument but even Athiests tend to remain agnostic towards a benevolent Creator so obviously it's not knock argument nor is it meant to be. It's rather suppose to challenge the notion of God which it does, and there hasn't been a good rebuttal of it so far.
So given these facts....
Shouldn't it be better not to constantly assert "You don't know God exists" to Theists, when you can't prove it rationally. Even if you knew it was true, just like you don't like Theists saying "You should believe in God" without giving evidence why.
Either way - it seems - rather this is an honest question everyone must come up with.
I say it takes courage to disbelieve in God, because you are now no longer with the assurance of a benevolent Creator whom will perserve youf soul and honor your struggles till the end of time (which will never end, it's just a saying) or take of care all of humanity and possible sentient life, and perserve them.
