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Coming to a mutual agreement and some rambling.
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RE: Coming to a mutual agreement and some rambling.
(July 18, 2012 at 12:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm not saying you are not justified in Atheism.

I'm not stating you should become Theists.

I'm not stating Theists are justified in believing in God.

I'm saying there is no rational knock out argument to show either way.

Why? Because as far logical possibilities, then all are possible. This is different then actual possible.

You say the words, but do you really understand the difference between logical possibility and actual possibility? A logical possibility is determined by the premises you choose. Those premises, such as those you spelled out here, may not have any relevance to reality. And that constitutes the rational knock-out argument for excluding some ways.

(July 18, 2012 at 12:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Yes it doesn't mean because it is possible, that necessarily believers are justified in their belief. But just like I shouldn't be telling Atheists they should become Theists because I feel I know God exists, the same is true of the other way around, don't you guys agree? Because you feel you don't know God exists, doesn't mean a Theist should feel the same way necessarily. You maybe totally right that they shouldn't, but do you have proof and evidence?

Feeling have nothing to do with it. The question is regarding actual knowledge. And any assertion of such knowledge without justification is irrational.

(July 18, 2012 at 12:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If not, what's the point of asserting it constantly? Isn't it this what you dislike about Theists, is coming on here, asserting you should believe in God without proof?

All I'm saying, it's something people have to decide within. Hostility or constantly wanting to assert one's disbelief on others, doesn't come across well, and doesn't make you seem more logical, in the same way theists telling disbelievers they should believe and trying to assert their belief doesn't come across as logical.

I have yet to meet an atheist who simply asserts without providing the reason behind it - and unlike theists, that reason does not come down to "because I feel it". The reason for dislike is not constant assertion, but assertion without any logic backing it up.
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RE: Coming to a mutual agreement and some rambling. - by genkaus - July 19, 2012 at 3:41 am

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