Obama care

[Darth]

What article on somalia are you reading? And where are you getting your info about libertarians?

False? Not according to your own link on somalia =D, here we go

"Somalia was a nation with a highly oppressive government,"

From the article you linked:

Many Somalis had become disillusioned with life under military dictatorship.
The government became increasingly totalitarian, and resistance movements, encouraged by Ethiopia, sprang up across the country, eventually leading to the Somali Civil War.
During 1990, in the capital city of Mogadishu, the residents were prohibited from gathering publicly in groups greater than three or four.

From the UN human rights commission, in 1990 http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,H...99c,0.html

For the past 20 years, Somali president Mohamed Siad Barre has presided over a one-party military dictatorship. His reign has been characterized by vicious discrimination against certain ethnic groups – currently the Isaaqs in northern Somalia – as well as political imprisonment, torture and summary executions, in an effort to suppress all dissent in Somalia...

...by driving Isaaq noncombatants from the country through such means as indiscriminate aerial bombardment, the widespread killings of civilians, the destruction of crops, cattle and food-storage facilities, the poisoning of wells, and the jailing of hundreds of political prisoners.

TRUE

"What law there is, a lot of it is sharia."

From the wikipedia article you linked

In 2006, the Islamic Courts Union (ICU), an Islamist organization, assumed control of much of the southern part of the country and promptly imposed Shari'a law...

As a truce, in March 2009, Somalia's coalition government announced that it would re-implement Shari'a as the nation's official judicial system.[121] However, conflict continued in the southern and central parts of the country....


Shari'a
Islamic shari'a has traditionally played a significant part in Somali society. In theory, it has served as the basis for all national legislation in every Somali constitution. In practice, however, it only applied to common civil cases such as marriage, divorce, inheritance and family matters. This changed after the start of the civil war, when a number of new shari'a courts began to spring up in many different cities and towns across the country. These new shari'a courts serve three functions; namely, to pass rulings in both criminal and civil cases, to organize a militia capable of arresting criminals, and to keep convicted prisoners incarcerated.[152]
The shari'a courts, though structured along simple lines, feature a conventional hierarchy of a chairman, vice-chairman and four judges. A police force that reports to the court enforces the judges' rulings, but also helps settle community disputes and apprehend suspected criminals. In addition, the courts manage detention centers where criminals are kept. An independent finance committee is also assigned the task of collecting and managing tax revenue levied on regional merchants by the local authorities.[152]
In March 2009, Somalia's newly established coalition government announced that it would implement shari'a as the nation's official judicial system.

TRUE (and it's insane yes)

"most of the tax dollars was [sic] spent on 'defence'."
Admittedly the wikipedia article doesn't seem to provide % expenditures on military during the barre regime

Now, the ME/CGE ratio is explained as

the percentage of central government expenditures spent on defence

on page 25
Somalia breakdown is on page 80

The US Arms Control and Disarmament Agency's world military expenditures and arms transfers 1991-1992 report
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/185648.pdf

So in the last year that they have info for (1986) it was at 30%, not counting 'policing'. Admittedly, 30% is not 'most', but it's a shit tonne, especially for a country that can't (won't) feed its people. Keep in mind it was the military who ran the place as well. AND it was spent not on defence, but on killing and oppressing it's own people, ruining it's own economy (burning crops, killing people...). See the above part on oppressive government. I'm going to take a wild guess here but in the lead up to, and during the start of the civil war the amount probably increased rather than decreased, though there is no data as we now know. Im not sure if that figure takes the military aid given to somalia into consideration either.

TECHNICALLY FALSE/UNVERIFIABLE, 30% and UNKNOWN% in the lead up and during the civil war VS a figure greater than 50%.

"Then civil war, and essentially NO government."
So the thing that precedes the civil war was an oppressive government, which we've already stablished, then civil war, the point that can be disputed in my thinking is 'essentially NO government'.

from the wikipedia article you linked

Following a meeting of the Somali National Movement and northern clans' elders, the northern former British portion of the country declared its independence as Somaliland in May 1991. Although de facto independent and relatively stable compared to the tumultuous south, it has not been recognized by any foreign government.

This led to efforts to remove Barre who still claimed to be the legitimate president of Somalia. He and his armed supporters remained in the south of the country until mid 1992, causing further escalation in violence, especially in the Gedo, Bay, Bakool, Lower Shabelle, Lower Juba, and Middle Juba regions. The armed conflict within the USC devastated the Mogadishu area.

The resulting famine (about 300,000 dead) caused the United Nations Security Council in 1992 to authorise the limited peacekeeping operation United Nations Operation in Somalia I (UNOSOM I).[85] UNOSOM's use of force was limited to self-defense and, although originally welcomed by both sides,[86] it was soon disregarded by the warring factions.

Fighting escalated until 19 American troops and more than 1,000 civilians and militia were killed in a raid in Mogadishu during October 1993.[87][88] The UN withdrew Operation United Shield in 3 March 1995, having suffered significant casualties, and with the rule of government still not restored. In August 1996, Aidid was killed in Mogadishu.

A consequence of the collapse of governmental authority that accompanied the civil war has been the emergence of a significant problem with piracy in the waters off of the coast of Somalia.[97][98] Piracy arose as a response by local fishermen from littoral towns such as Eyl, Kismayo and Harardhere to illegal fishing by foreign trawlers.[99][100][101] An upsurge in piracy in the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean has also been attributed to the effects of the 26 December 2004 tsunami that devastated local fishing fleets and washed ashore containers filled with toxic waste that had been dumped by European fishing vessels.[101][102]

Ima say TRUE, but then, I'm hardly an unbiased judge. I can agree that that statement is iffy, 'essentially no central government', 'lots of governments', 'lots of warring factions', 'essentially no government in parts of the country' would probably have been a better choice of words.

Shall we continue? This is taking a while (didn't find military expenditures as a percentage of government expenditures easy to find), and I know I'm right on the libertarian stuff (Just to be sure, we're talking about libertarianism as it's known in the U.S, close to classical liberalism yeah?)