(July 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm)Manowar Wrote: Creed,
I said this before but i guess you missed it. I was told $500.00 by an insurance man, you know, guys who deal in insurance, get it, that price over a year ago. Check page 3 of this thread CD says i am not far off when he checked with his HMO.
If i check prices now maybe it will be lower but not much I don't believe.
I still say if people live poor lifestyles they should be held accountable (pay more) it personal responsibilty, period!!!!!! If you are a bad driver premiums are higher if you smoke 2 packs a day FU pay double
Thanks for the award I am giving one to you for being out of shape tubby
Manowar
Yeah, insurance companies can totally be trusted to not spew bullshit that they disagree with. Please. Get your fucking source from an unbiased guy who doesn't have something to lose by telling you the truth and then get back at me. There's such a thing as "christian scientists," in the category of "christian science," the ones who try to enforce the ideas of creationism by perverting science. But because they have the word "scientist" in their name they MUST know what they're talking about! IGNORING, conveniently, the "christian" part that betrays their bias; like this, ignoring the "insurance" part that betrays his bias because Obamacare is going to hurt these assholes who have profited off of people being sick and have consistently refused coverage to people with pre-existing conditions endlessly. I am not disagreeing with you on the account of liability but you have to realize that that is still a problem; a man can go without smoking his entire life and develop terminal lung cancer at the age of 40, whereas a man can smoke two packs or more a day and die at the age of 80 of heart failure. You want black and white generalizations, and if you haven't learned it by now, then maybe you should realize this: Life is diverse and ridiculously complex and just saying "you should be liable!" doesn't really mean a single thing. You're basically asking the government to do exactly what the health insurance providers already do, which is pick-and-choose who gets coverage based on their lifestyles or their health. What about the man who quit smoking and eight years later he still gets cancer? He fought off the habit but he still has cancer; do you deny him coverage? Make him pay twice as much even though he finally stopped? If you deny him coverage or increase the charge, well, as the old adage goes: If one is punished equally for one sheep as for the flock, might as well steal the flock. And if you DON'T deny him coverage then you still have the fact that he still at one point chose to degrade his health and might be responsible.
Ya see? This shit ain't easy.
In any case, there's a difference between my award and yours. The award I gave was actually something you earned and is actually quite fitting. The "you're just a fatty" one is just you being an immature troll, and hilariously wrong to boot. Seriously, given the choices between being fat and being stupid, I'd rather be a giant human bowling ball than a colossal monument to stupidity any day as it is.