Obama care

[Creed of Heresy]

Creed, want to hear something really stupid, I actually agree with your point to a degree ( i guess i must stupid)

Finally, something we actually agree on.

cratehoursus, I wish that was true but 95 a year, i don't believe
You see i have been reading so much on this subject lately, since i just might have to get it. what i have been reading. a lot is just panic and bull and i don't know who to believe If you look at page 3 CD mentions what his HMO told him. a lot more than 95 a year.

You HAVE to believe it; it's the friggin' truth. Individuals making less than $250k a year will only see a .9% medicare tax increase. You know that medicare thing on your paystubs? That'll go up by less than a percent. Read up wikipedia, read up its sources, read up the actual provisional bill itself: That's where I get my information. Read it for yourself! Here, from About.com:
Obamacare facts

Those who don't purchase insurance, and don't qualify for Medicaid or subsidies, will be assessed a penalty of $95 (or 1% of income, whichever is higher) in 2014. It increases to $325 (or 2% of income) in 2015, and $695 (or 2.5% of income) in 2016.

In other words: If you are NOT in the poverty line, and you do not have any kind of health insurance, therefore making you a high-risk for emergency room usage [the biggest cost factor involved with medical care these days] you will be charged either 1% of your income or $95, whichever is higher, per year. You lose that much in change in a year. It WILL go up to $695 yearly in 2016, yes, but that's STILL not nearly as much as even the most basic, cheapest health insurance will cost you, and if that IS going to hurt you so badly then you actually won't be paying that anyway because your income will clearly be low enough. In other words, one more time: STOP. BITCHING. You're sitting there saying that most of what you are reading about is fear-mongering and panic? YOU'RE PANICKING. OVER SHIT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN TO YOU. Fuckin' A, man!

Frankie. people who smoke do for the most part face a shorter life and the cost of Tobacco, but that is there choice, I live responsibly and workout everyday. isn't that punishing good behavior and rewarding the smoker? I am not saying don't treat them just make them pony up

Manowar

Soooo they should pay 3 times, then? Two times isn't enough? Lower life expectancy, the cost of smokes, AND higher health insurance?
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