How would you know?

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If you were a real fucking atheist, you could not possibly petition a god to come and help you.

Oh, oh! Do I see a no true scotsman fallacy? Or does that only work with actual scotsmen and Christian's who do things no 'true christian' would do?

I'll pick out this to respond to specifically because it isn't the fallacy you say it is.

A simple rendition would be:
Alice: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis.
Bob: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis!
Alice: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis.

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The appearance of this fallacy should not be confused with actually failing to meet criteria. In the Scotsman and haggis example, it is quite doubtful that the widely accepted definition of a Scotsman necessarily includes liking haggis. (It is more likely to include being born of Scottish parents.) To Alice it does include liking haggis; to Bob and, probably, to the reader of the above section, it does not. On the other hand, consider a conversation along these lines:
Deb: All vegetarians refuse to eat steak.
Jake: My aunt is a vegetarian, and she eats steak all the time!
Deb: Well, then she's not really a vegetarian.

In this example, Deb's reply is reasonable, because it is widely accepted that being a vegetarian does necessarily involve refusing to eat meat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Using the definition of an atheist, it is unreasonable for an atheist to petition a god, considering they don't believe one exists.

I really do not buy into any of this bullshit, you were never an atheist if you think you can randomly call out to god.

we were all born Atheists! Think about it before you say something foolish.

You know exactly what I mean. I was talking with reference to the above explanation. Surely you are not so stupid to think that I meant anything other than that.


As for the rest, I'd really be going over the same old shit explaining to you my points.

We obviously disagree on certain 'characteristics' of your god.

Whatever.

It's going to go nowhere.

Cheers for the explanations, but I don't find them at all convincing.